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15 Nov 2020, 11:46 am

My parents had a bunch of people over for our birthdays (we're clustered within a month so we can have a one-off celebration). We had relatives over, my family are mostly rather staunch Republicans and by extension have been big Trump fans. The constant chat about election fraud and 'this will all be cleared up' was going around, depressing but not surprising.

What got me the most though was that there's a channel, NewsMax, I'd never heard of them but I had a good moment of horror when they were showing the blue vs. red victory states, they had a bunch of states including Nevada flipped back to gray, and they were showing Biden with something like 253 electoral votes.

An article on the channel:
https://www.cnn.com/2020/11/12/media/fo ... index.html

I don't know if it's just me but this looks like a solid case of not just Twitter and Facebook now guiding the behavior of news channels, in this case it seems to be guiding niche-filling. For example if my parents and relatives are that angry that we can't tell whether the mail-in votes really went that predominantly to Biden and if there's that much of a concern about election and voting fraud based on Dominion voting terminals maybe they should really think wait... both parties f'd us, for their own gain, they can make whatever they want of this, and all they had to do was be responsible adults about closing the loop on voting fraud and guess what - there was zero will to do so. Instead of actually turning their anger in the right direction they're getting all sorts of talking heads egging them on to see the Biden presidency as invalid.

What really irritates me about this, there was all sorts of talk by people about how concerned we were about this election and how it would be declared invalid no matter what. Things were actually very quiet, at least for what I could tell, for almost a week after the election. I could be wrong, if someone saw a lot more of this happening from the get go let me know because it could have just penetrated my sphere late, but I get the sense that 3.5 million votes should really close it, that Donald Trump got 70 million votes should force the DNC to introspect, if anyone would decide to put a voting box in that has a legitimate risk of fraud within 5% - 10% margin of error don't just fire them immediately, throw them in jail and throw anyone in there with them who says 'They're in muh party - we'll filibuster or outvote that decision'. You can't do democracy that way, no matter whose running.


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16 Nov 2020, 12:12 pm

"News Max", Yeah, Ever Since the Cult of Personality,
Currently Acting Actor, 'Trump', Told 'His Minions' To Watch "News Max,"
Even Over The Standard Propaganda Channel Of His Desires in 'Fox News';
Yes, Since the 'Mediacom Cable Company' Provides that Channel in their
Line-Up of Choices; Dutifully That Channel has Replaced 'Fox News'
For the Latest Designated Switch Hitter for those Who Bind and Bond
Over The Competition of Fear And Hate in Oneupmanship Supreme...

At The Military Gym, i Work Out A 'NewsMax' Standard Fare of 'Intelligent'

News Now For ALL to View;
Yes, the BesTesT
Quarterback God
On Only 'Our' Football
Team too; True, This is no
New, NewsMax; This is Human
Nature; Some Folks Are Born
of the Spirit of Competition
And Bred More This way too;
To Prove Their Greaters
Are Lesser to Find
A Step Up
on the
Ladder
to External
Illusions of Success,
Providing a Quick Hit
of Serotonin and Perhaps
Some Four-Wheel Drive and
AS Such Androgens ALong the Way too...

Meanwhile, 'SmARTer' Folks Use Arts of Human
Being; Regulating Emotions and Integrating Senses
in Autotelic Flow And Never Fall to Fear and Hate Now

As They control the Top Level of the LaddeR ETernAlly
Now ALWaYS RiSinG Higher Truly Elite as Such in Peace
And Harmony With only 'Reason' To Celebrate if others find

a way up too

Away

from

down

down

in all the
'NewsMax' Ways of Life
That Barely Breathes a Real Story of Heaven Within in Truth oF LiGHT
NoW to Give And Share For Free With Least Harm of Course Again...

A Place WHere
Everyone is
A Team
Member;

And indeed
the only Quarter
Back of THeir Own Soul Now...

Is it any Surprise, NoW iN A Competitive
Military Environment That As Practice
Must Erase A Part of Human Soul to Kill
With Bare Hands, IS A Reality for/of 'NewsMax';

of course not; iN A Word, Yes two; No, For Yes

THere is Epigenetics
in One Lifetime too;
Feral Cats That
Become
Lap
Cats
Lap
Cats that Become
Feral and Others That
Retain Enough Shadow
And Wings NoW To Cruise Through
Life iN Ease oF Loving all DarK Thru LiGHT;

But of course, This is all Just 'Word Salad',
for those yet to Visit 'The Other Side Now'...

There is No Fear or Hate of Truth or LoVE iN LiGHT oF Wisdom That is SmART...
60 Percent ART, Approximately as such And 40 Percent or So of 'S and M' 'ReaSoN'

As Necessary Truth too...

Anyway; How Bold
The Dark Comes
iN Light For All to See

All It Takes Is One
Despicable Leading
Narcissistic Demagogue
Cult of Personality Person
Championing Dark Binds
And Bonds Over Prejudice
of Differences in Fear And Hate
Still Now to Rabble Rouse Minion
Others to Pick Up Stones of Fear and Hate more...

'NewsMax'

True...

Nothing

New Under A

Sun in Truth oF Lies That Must Deal With

Clouds to Continue a Circle oF Light Spiraling Out of Dark...


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17 Nov 2020, 7:32 pm

As far as I can tell from the media I consume, there's not enough evidence for Trump to file a lawsuit. ...

And, yeah, the democrats seem to proud that Biden got elected with more votes than any president before him - but Trump also got more votes than any winning candidate before this election.

And finally: newsmax saw space on the looney fringe side of Fox and filled it. That's not good.
That means there's advertisers willing to risk peace to sell to a target audience while them entertained with lunacy. f*****g capitalists have no shame


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18 Nov 2020, 4:52 am

shlaifu wrote:
That's not good.
That means there's advertisers willing to risk peace to sell to a target audience while them entertained with lunacy.

Exactly. Could hardly have a brighter example of the Twitter, Facebook, and Youtube revenue ethos not just influencing traditional media but in this case cross-pollenating.


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19 Nov 2020, 8:41 pm

Newsmax? Yeah, I've heard of them. Loony, ridiculously right wing conspiracy outlet trying to pass itself off as part of the news media. Now, they've got big ambitions of replacing Fox as the center of the Trump cult.


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19 Nov 2020, 9:07 pm

Fox News called Arizona for Biden when only 73% of the vote was in and many Trump supporters saw it as a sign that Fox was just another msm station that was out to get them.
It's only logical that they would turn to even more right-wing sources.


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19 Nov 2020, 11:00 pm

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Fox News called Arizona for Biden when only 73% of the vote was in and many Trump supporters saw it as a sign that Fox was just another msm station that was out to get them.
It's only logical that they would turn to even more right-wing sources.


Gotta wonder what Fox is doing to do in regard to their future.


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20 Nov 2020, 3:25 am

Kraichgauer wrote:
Newsmax? Yeah, I've heard of them. Loony, ridiculously right wing conspiracy outlet trying to pass itself off as part of the news media. Now, they've got big ambitions of replacing Fox as the center of the Trump cult.

I would not be surprised - in fact, I'd be slightly surprised if it *didn't* happen - if Trump (+ family and associates) would latch on to either NewsMax or One America News Network as a new source of income post-departure from the White House.

His regular businesses were largely unprofitable even before COVID-19, but I'm sure he is looking on how to translate his 88.9 million followers on Twitter into a profitable TV audience. He'll probably succeed, too.

He could probably fill the TV slots with the following:

06:00 AM - 07:00 AM Panel discussion with Tucker Carlson, Donald Trump Jr., Eric Trump and Sean Hannity
07:00 AM - 08:00 AM Sean Hannity interviews Eric Trump
08:00 AM - 09:00 AM Tucker Carlson interviews Donald Trump Jr.
09:00 AM - 10:00 AM Rant by Rudy
10:00 AM - 01:00 PM Donald Trump staring at the camera for 3 hours
01:00 PM - 02:00 PM Rant by Rudy
02:00 PM - 03:00 PM Sean Hannity interviews Donald Trump Jr.
03:00 PM - 04:00 PM Tucker Carlson interviews Eric Trump
04:00 PM - 05:00 PM Rant by Rudy
05:00 PM - 06:00 PM Sean Hannity interviews Tucker Carlson
06:00 PM - 08:00 PM Sean Hannity interviews Donald Trump
08:00 PM - 10:00 PM Tucker Carlson interviews Donald Trump
10:00 PM - 11:00 PM Tucker Carlson interviews Sean Hannity
11:00 PM - 12:00 PM Panel discussion with Tucker Carlson, Donald Trump Jr., Eric Trump and Sean Hannity
12:00 PM - 06:00 AM Rant by Rudy

Rinse and repeat...


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20 Nov 2020, 9:16 am

I've heard enough people, not in this thread but in general, mention Disney's purchase of Fox back in 2019. In that sense a lot of the old anchors might already be looking for an exit, similarly I heard mention that Sean Hannity is interested in joining NewsMax, strange choice - it's like jumping over to BitChute (it's pretty much that - Republican BitChute on TV) but whatever floats his boat I guess!

If that actually goes where it seems like - nothing will hold the center of the Republican party in terms of networks, and then there's a question, what'll be done with that void? I've got some good ideas as I'd have for the Democratic party if the same thing happened over there but fat chance of it happening.


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20 Nov 2020, 10:26 am

The acquisition of 21st Century Fox by Disney took place on March 20, 2019.  Among other key assets, the acquisition of 21st Century Fox by Disney included the 20th Century Fox film and television studios, U.S. cable/satellite channels such as FX, Fox Networks Group, a 73% stake in National Geographic Partners, Indian television broadcaster Star India, and a 30% stake in Hulu.

Immediately preceding the acquisition, however, 21st Century Fox spun off the Fox Broadcasting Company, Fox Television Stations, Fox News Channel, Fox Business, FS1, FS2, Fox Deportes, and the Big Ten Network into the newly formed Fox Corporation.  Hence, Disney does not own the Fox News Network.


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20 Nov 2020, 5:20 pm

GGPViper wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
Newsmax? Yeah, I've heard of them. Loony, ridiculously right wing conspiracy outlet trying to pass itself off as part of the news media. Now, they've got big ambitions of replacing Fox as the center of the Trump cult.

I would not be surprised - in fact, I'd be slightly surprised if it *didn't* happen - if Trump (+ family and associates) would latch on to either NewsMax or One America News Network as a new source of income post-departure from the White House.

His regular businesses were largely unprofitable even before COVID-19, but I'm sure he is looking on how to translate his 88.9 million followers on Twitter into a profitable TV audience. He'll probably succeed, too.

He could probably fill the TV slots with the following:

06:00 AM - 07:00 AM Panel discussion with Tucker Carlson, Donald Trump Jr., Eric Trump and Sean Hannity
07:00 AM - 08:00 AM Sean Hannity interviews Eric Trump
08:00 AM - 09:00 AM Tucker Carlson interviews Donald Trump Jr.
09:00 AM - 10:00 AM Rant by Rudy
10:00 AM - 01:00 PM Donald Trump staring at the camera for 3 hours
01:00 PM - 02:00 PM Rant by Rudy
02:00 PM - 03:00 PM Sean Hannity interviews Donald Trump Jr.
03:00 PM - 04:00 PM Tucker Carlson interviews Eric Trump
04:00 PM - 05:00 PM Rant by Rudy
05:00 PM - 06:00 PM Sean Hannity interviews Tucker Carlson
06:00 PM - 08:00 PM Sean Hannity interviews Donald Trump
08:00 PM - 10:00 PM Tucker Carlson interviews Donald Trump
10:00 PM - 11:00 PM Tucker Carlson interviews Sean Hannity
11:00 PM - 12:00 PM Panel discussion with Tucker Carlson, Donald Trump Jr., Eric Trump and Sean Hannity
12:00 PM - 06:00 AM Rant by Rudy

Rinse and repeat...


I can easily see that in Newsmax' future.


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20 Nov 2020, 5:31 pm

At least now we will not be confused over the question, "Is Fox News a news channel or a tabloid channel?"

Because, by comparison, NewsMax makes Fox News look more and more like CNN with each passing day.


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