YouTube will remove videos disputing the 2020 election
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https://news.yahoo.com/youtube-removes- ... 26251.html
The company is matching this by updating its election fact check panels with a link to the Office of the Federal Register page confirming Biden’s win. There will still be a link to the Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency’s page debunking false election integrity claims.
https://www.thewrap.com/youtube-will-no ... ter-fraud/
“Now that enough states certified their Presidential election results, we’ll remove any content published today (or anytime after) that alleges widespread fraud or errors changed the 2020 U.S. Presidential election outcome,” the Google-owned video platform’s Twitter account said.
This move is in keeping with its election goal to, it said, “connect people to authoritative info, limit harmful misinfo & remove violative content.”
Will this lead to the alternative universe dwellers fleeing to another platform? How far will they go to preserve the bubble of misinformation? Why are some people so insistent on refusing to accept the outcome?
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Now, if only they would also remove videos disputing childhood vaccines, Roe v. Wade, evolutionary science, the Warren Report, the Apollo Moon landings, the rights of women and minorities, and the legitimacy of Israeli statehood, the world would be a much better place.
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Does this oblige them to continue to host videos promoting blatant disinformation? Are they obliged to host all disinformation, or would some topics like holocaust denial be too far?
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Yes. In the 90s the Net was hailed as the coming "the Information Superhighway", but its proven to also be the "misinformation superhighway". Probably more that.
The only solution is for each privately owned platform, like UTube, or Twitter, to police its own content.
It would be nice if things could be totally free. Let the crackpots do their thing, so we can enjoy the freak show, and let truth win out. But we're not only drowning in crackpottery but crackpottery can be dangerous in some situations.
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So when will the extreme right complete their project of disconnecting from anything that questions their alternative reality?
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Honestly don't think youtube should be doing this. Not that I want videos on youtube disputing the election, but I think having social media companies policing misinformation is a generally bad idea.
As others have pointed out there is no first amendment violation since youtube is not a government entity. But freedom of speech isn't just a constitutional right, it's a cultural value. I don't want social media companies policing speech on their platforms even though *they have the right.* Do you honestly trust companies like Facebook and Youtube to decide what is "correct information" v. "misinformation."
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Didn't social media's failure to respond contribute to the growth of the Q-Anon conspiracies? Don't they have an obligation to not have their platforms used to spread disinformation?
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If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed, and loving the people who are doing the oppressing. —Malcolm X
Just a reminder: under international law, an occupying power has no right of self-defense, and those who are occupied have the right and duty to liberate themselves by any means possible.
Does this oblige them to continue to host videos promoting blatant disinformation? Are they obliged to host all disinformation, or would some topics like holocaust denial be too far?
Questioning the Election is far different. In regard to Covid-19, Let's not forget you have several Governors and politicians caught red handed not following their own rules for the virus. Pelosi was caught red handed walking into a Hair salon without a mask. Newsom was caught at a party while everyone else is expected to social distance. We live in a society that mentally beats us to think a certain way, And anyone who doesn't, gets silenced. The mis-information in regard to the election is subjective, Because how do you YOU know your information hasn't been altered for a certain goal and or objective? Believe what you want, That is your right. But don't sit here and call the Republicans mis-informed when you have been played by the other side of the same coin. I don't care for either party, to be fair. We're all being played.
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Does this oblige them to continue to host videos promoting blatant disinformation? Are they obliged to host all disinformation, or would some topics like holocaust denial be too far?
Questioning the Election is far different.
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The mis-information in regard to the election is subjective, Because how do you YOU know your information hasn't been altered for a certain goal and or objective? Believe what you want, That is your right. But don't sit here and call the Republicans mis-informed when you have been played by the other side of the same coin. I don't care for either party, to be fair. We're all being played.
Who mentioned COVID? That's not the topic and I'd prefer if you didn't hijack. There's several other threads where that's the topic, but this isn't one of them.
Folks who peddle the QAnon nonsense believe they're raising a valid case too, but loudly insisting you have a valid case isn't the same as having one. No one is preventing the StopTheSteal conspiracy theorists from believing what they want, they're only being denied access to a specific platform they're using to peddle harmful disinformation. YouTube doesn't owe them a platform to spread lies on.
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If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed, and loving the people who are doing the oppressing. —Malcolm X
Just a reminder: under international law, an occupying power has no right of self-defense, and those who are occupied have the right and duty to liberate themselves by any means possible.
Didn't social media's failure to respond contribute to the growth of the Q-Anon conspiracies? Don't they have an obligation to not have their platforms used to spread disinformation?
Does Verizon have an obligation that misinformation isn't spread over their phone lines? Does the U.S. postal service has an obligation that misinformation isn't mailed out? In the USPS' case they are a government entity and couldn't censor mail even if they wanted.
Bottom line is I don't trust Facebook, Youtube et. al to be arbiters of truth. You honestly want Mark Zuckerberg deciding what is and isn't factual information?
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