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12 Jan 2021, 8:14 am

Here is an article somewhat humorous about what Christians call the rapture and tribulation. Given that present political climate gives every appearance of the end of our freedoms, it might be of interest to consider what has been predicted about "end times".

http://christianpioneer.com/blogarchieve/blog161.htm



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13 Jan 2021, 10:34 pm

"and the polar ice caps shall melt, so that the sea riseth and devoureth the great city of miami. The sun shall scorch the crops and the famine shall lead to discord among the human, civil war and refugee crisis. The peoples of the north shall turn their backs to the deaperate peoples from the south, they shall build walls crowned with barbed wire, but the walls can't stop the hurricanes, the droughts and the monsoons. Everything shall contain microplastics and the sea itself shall turn acidic and corrode everything that liveth in it. And that's before the other six angels even started playing their trumpets" - John, 29:17


Just kidding. The polar ice caps, miamil, the whole American continent didn't exist when the scripture was written.


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14 Jan 2021, 2:04 am

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Just kidding. The polar ice caps, miamil, the whole American continent didn't exist when the scripture was written.


WTF are you talking about?

The city of Miami did not exist in Biblical times. That much is true.

But the American continents certainly existed in Biblical times. The authors of the Bible didnt even know about China, much less about the Americas. But that doesnt mean that the American continents didnt exist. :lol:

Same with the Polar Ice Caps. They existed, but the ancient Hebrews didnt know that they existed. The Greeks were more accomplished seafarers than were the Hebrews, but even the Greeks were only dimly aware of even Europe beyond the Mediterranean. But that doesnt mean that the world beyond the Med didnt exist.



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14 Jan 2021, 8:17 am

The world is going to end. We just don't know how it's going to happen. These are the end times.


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14 Jan 2021, 5:13 pm

naturalplastic wrote:
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Just kidding. The polar ice caps, miamil, the whole American continent didn't exist when the scripture was written.


WTF are you talking about?

The city of Miami did not exist in Biblical times. That much is true.

But the American continents certainly existed in Biblical times. The authors of the Bible didnt even know about China, much less about the Americas. But that doesnt mean that the American continents didnt exist. :lol:

Same with the Polar Ice Caps. They existed, but the ancient Hebrews didnt know that they existed. The Greeks were more accomplished seafarers than were the Hebrews, but even the Greeks were only dimly aware of even Europe beyond the Mediterranean. But that doesnt mean that the world beyond the Med didnt exist.

Agreed. Also, some scholars believe that John was shown scenes of modern warfare. He would not have had the capacity to understand the weapons, vehicles and other tools of war that we have now.

Of course, it's equally possible that the actual end times are as far away from us as our time is from biblical times, and that we don't have the capacity to understand what the real rapture will look like. It's not as if we were given an actual timeline. :lol:



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14 Jan 2021, 5:22 pm

"These Are The End Times" is not even a Christian idea.  The earliest prediction of the end of the world came from the Assyrians, a powerful Mesopotamian culture that lasted for roughly two thousand years.  A tablet was found dating back to sometime between 2800 and 2500 BC that bears the first known prophecy of the "End of Days".  According to the translation, it claims that Earth was in its final days in those years, and that the world was deteriorating into a corrupt society that would only end with its destruction.  Though it is not known who wrote this inscription, it is a fervent example of how far back in human history apocalyptic prophecies world began.  Hence, the "End Times" have been going on for at least 4800 years, with no actual "end" in sight.


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14 Jan 2021, 5:26 pm

"Let the person who has insight calculate the number of the least, for it is the number of a man-child. That number is 45."

Lucifer 6:66


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14 Jan 2021, 5:38 pm

I think a zombie apocalypse could happen, in all seriousness. I just don’t think it would be anywhere close to what you see in the movies. I don’t know if it would be a virus or a mutation, but mindless undead or reanimated former humans? I think it would start as one or two isolated incidents, some newly discovered disease that, for one reason or another, becomes treatable or manageable and somehow becomes accepted. There would gradually, over a very long period of time, be an increase in cases with no sense of urgency to deal with it. And then after a hundred years or so you have these weird, sub-humans or post-humans aimlessly wandering the landscape. A few might happen to turn violent, but it wouldn’t be the norm for a long time. By the time it DID happen you might find human beings dealing with the consequences of there being so many and no resources to deal with them, or human beings might actually be endangered. If that apocalypse started today, probably nobody would even notice.

As much as COVID-19 has affected people who test NEGATIVE, I wouldn’t be surprised at all if the zombie apocalypse had already started. For the time being, however, I’m counting myself MARKED SAFE.



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14 Jan 2021, 5:51 pm

Brains! Brains! Eating Brains!

Watching It From the
Back Pew Led from
The Pulpit

The

Last
4 Years
Particularly

In Ignorance
Further Led by
Fox News And the

Such Yes
Other Related
Social Media
False Lie Sources

In Organized Deceit
With More Bang for Power And Status
While Minion Ignorance Ruled by

5th Avenue Pandemic
Shooting Demagogue

And 'Senior Minion Officials'

Brains! Brains! Eating Brains!

Truly Deplorable and Despicable Both

Old Testament News Nothing New Under
The Human Ignorance Failing to Lift Veils From

The Original Greek

Definition of Apocalypse...

Brains! Brain! Eating Brains!

Revealed Now For All Who See Truth in Light...

Haha if this Sounds too Much Like a Bible Sue me

Been Listening

To one from

A Back Pew
since 6.6.60

-Frederick

You May Look
Up the Definition
of That Name in
German If You Please

Yet Hehe

i only

Rule me

Brains! Brains! Brains!

Out of My Mind In Autotelic Flow
of Heaven Within for Real! Real! Real!

By God

This is
F For Fun...

Anyway Back to
Simple Prophecy
Sheep Have Already

(If Ya wanna get all
Biblically Original
In NT Gospel way)

Turned into Goats
Burning Themselves

Down On 5th Avenue
Still In 2020 View for 'Matthew' to Report Again...;)


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14 Jan 2021, 6:31 pm

naturalplastic wrote:
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Just kidding. The polar ice caps, miamil, the whole American continent didn't exist when the scripture was written.


WTF are you talking about?

The city of Miami did not exist in Biblical times. That much is true.

But the American continents certainly existed in Biblical times. The authors of the Bible didnt even know about China, much less about the Americas. But that doesnt mean that the American continents didnt exist. :lol:

Same with the Polar Ice Caps. They existed, but the ancient Hebrews didnt know that they existed. The Greeks were more accomplished seafarers than were the Hebrews, but even the Greeks were only dimly aware of even Europe beyond the Mediterranean. But that doesnt mean that the world beyond the Med didnt exist.


Sorry, I should have known that irony doesn't work on the internet, where actual flat earthers are saying actual flat earth things.
I was trying to underline the point that ancient texts are limited to the scope of the people of the time and place at which they were written, and therefore, engaging with eschatology is a scholastic endeavour.


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14 Jan 2021, 8:25 pm

aghogday wrote:
Brains! Brains! Eating Brains!

Watching It From the
Back Pew Led from
The Pulpit

The

Last
4 Years
Particularly

In Ignorance
Further Led by
Fox News And the

Such Yes
Other Related
Social Media
False Lie Sources

In Organized Deceit
With More Bang for Power And Status
While Minion Ignorance Ruled by

5th Avenue Pandemic
Shooting Demagogue

And 'Senior Minion Officials'

Brains! Brains! Eating Brains!

Truly Deplorable and Despicable Both

Old Testament News Nothing New Under
The Human Ignorance Failing to Lift Veils From

The Original Greek

Definition of Apocalypse...

Brains! Brain! Eating Brains!

Revealed Now For All Who See Truth in Light...

Haha if this Sounds too Much Like a Bible Sue me

Been Listening

To one from

A Back Pew
since 6.6.60

-Frederick

You May Look
Up the Definition
of That Name in
German If You Please

Yet Hehe

i only

Rule me

Brains! Brains! Brains!

Out of My Mind In Autotelic Flow
of Heaven Within for Real! Real! Real!

By God

This is
F For Fun...

Anyway Back to
Simple Prophecy
Sheep Have Already

(If Ya wanna get all
Biblically Original
In NT Gospel way)

Turned into Goats
Burning Themselves

Down On 5th Avenue
Still In 2020 View for 'Matthew' to Report Again...;)

While I do disagree regarding Trump, I will say without even a hint of irony this is quite possibly the best thing you’ve ever written.



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14 Jan 2021, 10:16 pm

AngelRho wrote:
While I do disagree regarding Trump, I will say without even a hint of irony this is quite possibly the best thing you’ve ever written.




SMiles, my 'Wrong Planet' FRiEnD,
i Commonly Hear Words Like 'That'
From Women in the Middle
to Farther East Now With
Greater Access to Spiritual
Ways of Processing Existence
With More of the Metaphor of
'Right Brain' Processing the
World in Bigger Picture Think...

Rarely A 'Good Word'

From Any Dude hehe

So Yeah Thanks No Doubt

You Have 'the Music' in You too...

Yet, Here'S A Thing, We Don't Evolve As Well

In Places Wherever Everyone Assures Us We

Are 'The Best Thing Since White Sliced Bread'...

Applause is

Nice, Yet

i Enjoy

'Dead Silence' As Well...

Ever Since i Started this

Long Form 'Epic Free Verse Bible Poem

Business', The Reviews Have Been,

"Your Wife Must be the Luckiest

Woman in the World" to the

Dudes Hidden

Behind

Avatars

Who say,

"You Write Insane,

Go Off Yourself;" or in the

Case of Leg Pressing up to 1520 Pounds,

Still at 60, With 12 Reps of 1340 Pounds, VERY SLOWLY,

At a 90 Degree Angle for 100 Seconds on YouTube ;

CommentS iNclude, "i Hope it all Falls Down on You And Kills You";

The Response from the Public Dancing, Intensely 'Organically' Rewarding;

With Some Not So Nice Folks too, Here And THere With Similar Issues;

It's True, They Most Likely

Have Someone

In Common Not Unlike

The Capitol Hill Murders...

Fear And Hate Loves Misery and

Suffering and Big Daddies Very Similar

To Trump's Daddy Fred, Who Made Them

Feel They Would Never Measure up to HIM;

YeS, UNworthy

of 'HIM'

And 'HE' And

When they Come
ACross A Dude who
Has Found His Charms

With the Women, the Hatred Grows even Deeper...

Yet, i understand the Full Nature of 'the Beast'...

The Human Condition From "Alpha Thru Omega" As Such for Real...

Anyway, Sincerely

Thank You For Real too..

I've Been a Lady's Man Most

Of My Life; And No One's Man too

Except for A Dog's Friend; And Not

Able to Connect to Anyone at all

From Basically Autism

Burnout for

66 Months;

Bottom Lines, i Survive,

Financially Independent; REALLY Rich

Now, i Generate My Own Happiness

Within; Some 'Folks' Come Like Honey; Others

Are More like 'Dead Silence', Either one is Fine with me;

For again,

The Kingdom

Of Heaven

is What

We Generate

Within that Not

Even the Devil You (me)

Were Before Will Take away...

It's A Major Practice of Life and as Real as Breath
Worth Living Now Finding Out it is A Real Deal
of Autotelic Flow And Not Just Empty Shells
Called Sacred Text and Old Bibles; Amazing

And

Life

Changing Through

And Through, For It's Very

True When 'You' Do It For Real,

You Come to Understand Why the Myths

Come to Bring the Essence of the Truth

In Light, so there is no Use in Wearing the Myths Anymore;

Or Even Any Words At All; A Dance With No Words, Naked

Of Human Clothes of CuLTuRE Sufficient Enough Now too...

Common

Mystical

Aspects

of Religion,

Across Cultures;

And Even in Scientific Study

That i Have Studied

In Depth and Up

Close and Personal

With Thousands

of Folks Globally;

Yes, One Force, One

God Within For All to

Give And Share Free, This Agape Love;

This Real Kingdom of Heaven Within;

This Real God Love of Peace And

Harmony Frequencies and

Vibrations of

God's

Music

This Nature This Force This Energy

For All Who 'Come to the Water' Now

And Find the Ability to Finally Become

Spiritually Baptised For Real Within

And Easy to 'Anoint' Others, Similar at

Least, A Spark Here And THere Around a Globe;

i Search

Far

Yet

i Find those

Who 'Drink' my FRiEnD';
Some Who Practically Become 'Drunk' With
The Spirit Within Trying to Let Them Feel and
Sense it is not me Who it is coming From; Yet, Them From Within...

And Trust
Me You Can

Ask my Wife;

She Doesn't Always

Feel Like the Luckiest

Woman in The World, Married

To me; Yet it's true i'm on a bit of Mission

to more

than

Just one Person;

It's Just What Agape

Love Does; THere is no

Choice When We 'Swim in the Ocean'....

Just from my Point of View of Course;

Again, It Varies Depending on Model

And Make of the Human.... Being... Mileage Varies...

My Wife is More Interested in a New Subaru Forester...

i'm More of A Man of the Woods, Naked on Fur And Wing Free....

Yet, THere IS A Place for Everyone, my Most Valuable FRiEnD in this World my Wife..

An Only Woman Willing to Stand by Her Man for 66 Months In Hell; Yet You See, i

Didn't Look For the Woman With All the Make-Up And Ambitions; i found the

One who At 8 Years Old, Climbed 40 Foot Trees, to Pick Fruit, When Her

Single Mother And 6 Brothers and Sisters Had No Food or Drink;

Looking Across the Roofs to Homes of the 'Lucky Kids';

All That Was Left for Her is Survive and Love;

Almost

Like

She

Was in Training

To Help me Through Hell 30 Years Later...

There is Nothing Random in this Life for

Those Who Become Part of 'The Story'...

i Intuited This Beyond Words 'Then' As

'The Child'; Now i Dance And Sing it For Real;

Just Another Man of the Woods; Naked Free With This Spirit Within...:)


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15 Jan 2021, 9:35 am

I think the only undead involved in the Christian apocalypse is the J-Man himself.
The idea of a zombie apocalypse has become so popular, if you ask me, because of a sort of collective desire to see the slate wiped clean. It's similar to the end of the century/fin de siecle sentiments from the late 19th century. People see the chaos and injustice in the world and worry--or hope--that something has to give. Zombies are a popular vehicle for the end of society because it gives the survivors a concrete threat that can be combatted with violence. It provides a simple threat with a single solution that is comforting to people living in a world full of complex threats with complex or non-existent solutions. The militia movements love the idea of an apocalypse you can shoot your way out of. Why do you think the real threat of a climate apocalypse isn't as 'popular'? You can't shoot climate change--you just have to do boring, somehow anti-American stuff like regulating business and changing consumer habits. That's not the juicy stuff that gets people pumped up to go to the box office and buy guns.

Christians for the last 2000 years every time something scary happens wrote:
The world is going to end. We just don't know how it's going to happen. These are the end times.

Some Christians seem intent on being the Boy who cried Armageddon!


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15 Jan 2021, 1:14 pm

roronoa79 wrote:
I think the only undead involved in the Christian apocalypse is the J-Man himself.
The idea of a zombie apocalypse has become so popular, if you ask me, because of a sort of collective desire to see the slate wiped clean. It's similar to the end of the century/fin de siecle sentiments from the late 19th century. People see the chaos and injustice in the world and worry--or hope--that something has to give. Zombies are a popular vehicle for the end of society because it gives the survivors a concrete threat that can be combatted with violence. It provides a simple threat with a single solution that is comforting to people living in a world full of complex threats with complex or non-existent solutions. The militia movements love the idea of an apocalypse you can shoot your way out of. Why do you think the real threat of a climate apocalypse isn't as 'popular'? You can't shoot climate change--you just have to do boring, somehow anti-American stuff like regulating business and changing consumer habits. That's not the juicy stuff that gets people pumped up to go to the box office and buy guns.
Christians for the last 2000 years every time something scary happens wrote:
The world is going to end. We just don't know how it's going to happen. These are the end times.

Some Christians seem intent on being the Boy who cried Armageddon!

Indeed.

The Christian view for a lot of us is that the end times began at Pentecost. How you interpret "end times" is going to depend on where you stand on dispensationalism, which, personally, I think is well-supported. Gauging Biblical history, you can defo tell beginnings and endings of various eras that show a change in how God relates to humanity. While Jesus is vital to salvation, with regard to this Jesus' earthly ministry really only represents a transition between the second temple age/Roman occupation to spreading the gospel throughout the world, i.e. not strictly reserved for the Jews as the "chosen" people. The "end of the age" is Jesus' return.

Aaaaand...the idea of zombies walking the earth in the meantime isn't all that foreign. The dead walked the earth about the time of Jesus' crucifixion. The dead will rise when Jesus returns. I guess on the last day, we're ALL going to be zombies...excuse me, what should the politically correct term be for this? "Reanimated humans." How about that? I like the way that sound! :lol: