My theory on why a certain group hates another

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Why would a Non-Hispanic Non-Jewish white hate Hispanic White and Jewish White?
They're Jealous 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
They're finding somebody to live in their head rent-free 10%  10%  [ 1 ]
They're bored 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
They're authoritarian bigots 90%  90%  [ 9 ]
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04 Mar 2021, 7:04 pm

Title too long so, I'll start. I've noticed some Non-Hispanic Non-Jewish whites, often authoritarian and bigoted about other groups, hate white Jews and white Hispanics. My theory on this is because commies and nazis I've come across on the internet and in real life in the past, tend to hate a lot of these people, because according to Nazis, Jews and Hispanics aren't "white" in their eyes, and according to commies, they're not on the oppression scale, whatever that means. Please note that most Hispanics in the USA are white, mainly from Spain and Portugal, and most Jews are white in the USA, either Ashkenazi or Shepardic Jews. I've noticed a lot of Hispanic whites and white Jews tend to be more successful than their fellow same skin toned counterparts. I think there might be a tone of jealousy coming from their same ancestry like counterparts, since these people tend to demonise Hispanics and Jews. You could say that about anyone, if they despise someone enough, it could be jealousy, or it could just be irl obsessing and alogging about people.

Side note: I don't think many "races" are real, but I do think we're part of one race. In a way, I think race is real, but only one. Also, people mistaken racism as colourism, because they're not judging any other race, since we're all the human race; they're judging them because one is a different skin colour than themselves, but with the Jews and Hispanics that are white being judged, it's because of their ethnicity. In order to fight colourism of any kind, regardless if it's against white, black, yellow, red, or brown people, we need to stop separating each other and dividing us. When they mean "race", they mean colour and ancestry. Remember that.



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05 Mar 2021, 5:24 am

I voted authoritarian bigots.


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05 Mar 2021, 6:59 am

My thought would be that it is likely connected with a human (and shared to various degrees through the animal kingdom) trait for people to form "groups"\communities, and "protect" them from other groups\individuals.

It doesn't matter whether the group is "family" or formed around racial\religious\political\other shared values - members will often attack members of other groups (or the group itself) which they feel threatened by (either personally or as being a threat to the group), where there are limited resources (of whatever form they may take - physical\environmental\spiritual\potential new members\etc.), or some other related reason, in order to look after the wellbeing (as they see it) of their own group.


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05 Mar 2021, 9:57 am

I don't understand why anyone hates their fellow man. But hate is not peculiar to white people.



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05 Mar 2021, 10:04 am

There are basically two kinds of people who do not understand 'hate': Those who hate no one, and those who hate everyone.  In the opinion of either one, their own perspective is the only normal, rational perspective to have.


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05 Mar 2021, 10:51 am

I tend to lean towards a more top down leadership theory.

Some leader guy, in charge of his flock of sheep, felt threatened by the people of a different leader guy.. people who might overtake his empire militarily or economically, and so, realizing that his empire would likely topple if the Other people got to his thrown, he had to devise a way to keep them at bay.. Aaaah, that's it, I'll use hate!! Logic won't work, because if I tell my people to put their lives on the line to protect my riches and my socioeconomic status as leaderbean, they'll just laugh in my face and tell me to get f****d.. BUT, if I convince my sheep that THOSE "different," sheep are eeevil baaaaad sheep & thus worthy of hatred, then they'll gladly give their lives to fend off those they're taught to Hate.

And then here we are a couple thousand years or so later continuing to do "as we've always done," even though no one knows anymore why we even started in the first place.

And IMO this isn't just theory, it's history. I've read/watched a couple clips on the history of racism and white supremacy in the world, and it's all an invention of the Church. It helped them manipulate and control populations as they expanded their "Holy," empire. Without their creating, teaching, and perpetuating white supremacy from a top down hierarchy, it wouldn't exist as it does today.


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05 Mar 2021, 10:52 am

↑ In a word, Goldy: "Tribalism".


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05 Mar 2021, 11:19 am

I'd imagine, if the people in question have expressed WS/WN aligned views that both defines their own group as 'in' and the other party's group as 'not in'.

This isn't uncommon with a privileged in-group, the hangers-on do more of the enforcement of hierarchy than the most privileged members; just like how in high school it's rare for the most popular kids to be the bullies, it's usually kids trying to fit in with the 'elite'.

But there's as many reasons for two people to dislike each other as there are stars in the universe.


Apparently I misread the premise.

OP, you're looking at it from the lens of appearance and from your own understanding of how humans relate. People like the people you're describing don't. They view one's ancestry as actually playing a role in defining how people experience the world, they view it as inescapable and thus view people they other as not us an incapable of becoming us.



Also, just to mention, most Hispanic Americans are of Mexican decent and Mestizo.



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05 Mar 2021, 11:20 am

Fnord wrote:
There are basically two kinds of people who do not understand 'hate': Those who hate no one, and those who hate everyone.  In the opinion of either one, their own perspective is the only normal, rational perspective to have.

Thanks for explaining it to me :lol: I'm most likely one of those two. I do have difficulty understanding hate. All I can do about it is accept the fact it exists.


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05 Mar 2021, 11:45 am

*Fear* likely has a big part.

If someone hates something, likely, there is underlying *fear*.


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05 Mar 2021, 11:50 am

Authoritarian bigots. AKA Nazis.

Nazis hate Jews.

Idk when this stopped being common knowledge.


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05 Mar 2021, 11:50 am

I understand hate.  For me it has more to do with being assault and humiliated, and then wanting revenge in the worst possible way while knowing full well that committing an act of vengeance will only put me at their level, and that not committing an act of vengeance means that the perpetrator gets away scot-free until the moment of their death.

I wonder what happens to the souls of the unrepentant?


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05 Mar 2021, 12:19 pm

TheRobotLives wrote:
*Fear* likely has a big part.

If someone hates something, likely, there is underlying *fear*.

From what I know, yes.


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05 Mar 2021, 12:48 pm

magz wrote:
TheRobotLives wrote:
*Fear* likely has a big part.

If someone hates something, likely, there is underlying *fear*.

From what I know, yes.


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05 Mar 2021, 1:25 pm





No Different Really That 'Star Wars', Per Why A 'Group Hates Another';

Folks Bind And Bond Over Common Denominators Required;

Yes, for Tribal Success For Groups Gaining Survival Resources

Over Other Groups in Socio-Economic Scarcities in Competition

For Social Approval; Also to Gain the Warm And Fuzzy Benefit Intrinsic

Reward Of the Oxytocin Neurohormone That May Be Felt in A REAL

'Bloody Insurrection' Together Bonding Over a BIG LIE Deemed True...

There Are Two Common Denominators, Generally Dark and Light;

Yet NO, This Is Not A Black And White Issue; It Is A Spectrum

Of Change; The One Constant of Reality to Balance At Best....

Not everyone Hates All...

Not everyone Loves All...

PerhapsTemporarily Now;

Yet, Find/Experience A Different Environment

And Humans Change According to Nature at Hand;

And This Is A Fact, Positive Energy is Better Than Negative

Injury for the Organism Now; However, if One Does Not Get 'Pissed

Off' Enough And Fight Back; It may become a Moot Point if Someone Kills Ya Dead now...

Of Course, One Might Earn/Be
'A Master' of 'CHI' in Emotional
Regulation And Sensory Integration

And Defeat the Enemy in one Blow

As Still A Calm Wave Water Ocean Whole 'LiGHT Force' IN BALANCE NOW;

Optimal Life; Keeping Heaven Within, Defeating the Enemy As a 'One Punch' Guy And Or Gal...

Haha; or Better; Get Out of the Enemy's Way and Watch them Fall on their Butt; Whatever Works with Ease...

It's Pure Ignorance

To Hate Others

As It only

Shortens

Life Unless

The Negative energy

is Required to Motivate A Save of Life....

Yet Who Even Needs 'Adrenaline', When Ya Master
'CHI' in Autotelic Flow And Become the Water And Just
Flow Through the Fights of Life in Ease...

Works for me at least For Now At Best;

Other Than This, Nature isn't Always

Fair; Some Folks Are Born or Become
'De-Wired' Through Neglect And Abuse,
Environmentally Speaking Now Yes Versus
Deficit of Born-on Functional Disabilities;
Not to Be Able Feel the Warmth And Real
Healing That Even Extinguishes Anxiety,
Stress, Yes Fear that Oxytocin Does as the
All Natural Love Drug, Per Say And Yes Do;

Some Folks Are So Empty Within Through the
Similar Nature and Nurture That the Closest Thing
They Can Feel to Any Pleasure in Life is Bringing Pain
to Others and or Self; For Those Without the Benefit of Oxytocin
They May Over-rely on Adrenaline Highs, Dopamine, And Serotonin too;

Respectively, as that Comes, In Yes the 'Thrill of the Aggressive Fight';
The Dopamine That Gambling, Pornography, All Other Behavioral and
Substance Addictions that Come Out of Balance in the Disease of Addiction

And Of Course Serotonin And The Feeling of Being On Top of the Hierarchy;
Sexual Conquests through the Chase of Seduction and the Such; While Yes

Grandma

Is Serving

ThanksGiving

Dinner For Three Generations

In A Nurturing Way of Oxytocin

Generating That Makes Everyone

Wanna Take A Warm Nap Forevernow

After The 'Roast Beast Dinner' in 'Whoville At Christmas';

Cr8p, Yet There is that 'Dam Grinch Trump' And All The 'Ruined Who People'

No Longer

Feeling

All the

Christmas

Fireplace Roast
Beast Afternoon Delight Nap...

See What i Just did with 'Delight'

Infusing a Bit of Dopamine into the Story too; hehe
Perhaps Some Androgens and Estrogens to top it all off
In the Moonlit Dew Grass of the Summer Warm Hot Moon....

HA HA HA HA

There are so many

Greater Things in

Life to do than Fear And Hate...

Just A Million Dreams More to
Create, Give and Share Free, i for one do always now....

Just Another 'A Day in the Life' of A 'Master Thesis of Love' Enough....

You'd Almost Have to Be 'Adam And Eve' For A Lifetime to Understand How

'Afternoon Delight' Stays...

No 'Apple

Trees'; Just

Palm Trees

On the Beach (And Home) (Original 'Whoville'

Before 'the Old Testament Grinch') And Strong Oaks

in the Forest

Free

to please...

Like A Led
'Zeppelin Song'
A Stairway to
'Heaven' And A Piper
of Reason To Top off Pan of the Forest hehe...

Where Beauty And Beast Lives Happily Forever

by the way Fairy Tales come true too

For Now; Not

Often

Yet they Do Now;

Truly Irrefutable So too...

There are More Reasons to
Hate Other Groups Than Ever
Now As They Are Surely Advertised
As Such Night And Day Never Ending

In All the Information Age Explosion of that

The Squirrels Still Scuffle a Bit in the Backyard

of 'Eden' For All They Will Eat Sunflower Seeds Provided
By 'US' Yet Without Socio-Economic Scarcity The Squirrels Still Have Full Tummies Enough to

Do What Keeps the Backyard Full Of New Baby Squirrels To Come into the World For More

Sunflower

Seeds Free...

True they
Are the
Ones Living
The Fairy Tale

Totally Non-Cognizant
Of the Human 'Gehenna Pie'...

Humans Live Out of Balance; in
This Way, overall, Humans In Effect
Do ACT Like the Most Dangerous CuLTuRaL Pandemic on Earth; Yes,

'Zombie ViRuS' EATinG Away the Face of Nature Our Only Heaven Place to Be...

Ya Can't Keep Getting 'On Top of Nature' And Expect to Survive; When Nature Says No

Nature Means it...

i surely
will relate...

iN A Place
That isn't Eden...

In the Same Location of Heaven...

Balance; Fear and Hate is Not Balance;
Fear and Hate is Not Good For A Longer Stay....



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05 Mar 2021, 1:46 pm

We could also ask "why would [sports team x] supporters hate [sports team y] supporters". I think the only difference is the affiliation mechanism (one is mostly hereditary, the other one isn't; one is mostly voluntary, the other one isn't).

As for actually answering the question... well I just do not understand it. Not on a personal level at least. People seem to be born with that tribalism chip already embedded in their system (mine was faulty from the factory, I guess). The factors that define each group that someone can be "in" or "out" of are, more often than not, entirely circumstantial. That standard-grade tribalism chip also seems to feature firmware that selectively discards any information that might reveal that circumstantiality before it reaches the CPU.

As for why those particular groups the OP asked about may or may not like or dislike each other... eh, I have no clue. Those ethnic categories don't exist where I come from. *shrug*


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