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07 Apr 2021, 11:17 am

ID's are racist except...

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IDs are NOT racist:

- to buy alcohol
- to buy an M video game
- to get welfare benefits
- to get married
- to buy nail polish
- writing a check
- cashing a check
- using a credit card
- to apply for a business license
- to apply for permission to hold a protest or rally
- to buy a house or real estate
- to rent a motor vehicle
- to apply for a building permit
- to serving on jury duty
- to open a bank account

But an ID is absolutely 100% racist and bigoted when it’s required to vote. If you deny this, I will have you canceled from Facebook, bigot! This is science!



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07 Apr 2021, 11:19 am

Making immediate changes to voting laws immediately after losing doesn't smell fishy at all. I can't imagine why people don't trust Republicans to act in anyone but their own's best interests.


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07 Apr 2021, 11:25 am

funeralxempire wrote:
Making immediate changes to voting laws immediately after losing doesn't smell fishy at all. I can't imagine why people don't trust Republicans to act in anyone but their own's best interests.


Happens all the time. The Democrats changed every law they could prior to the last election. I guess liberals all had covid and couldn't smell the rotten fish at that time.



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07 Apr 2021, 11:33 am

Daddy63 wrote:
funeralxempire wrote:
Making immediate changes to voting laws immediately after losing doesn't smell fishy at all. I can't imagine why people don't trust Republicans to act in anyone but their own's best interests.


Happens all the time. The Democrats changed every law they could prior to the last election. I guess liberals all had covid and couldn't smell the rotten fish at that time.


The mutual distrust is toxic but Kemp's response contributes to the problem instead of addressing it so he has only himself to blame for the fallout.

Changes prior to the election weren't implemented specifically because conservatives didn't rig the election enough to win, unlike the changes afterwards. At some point the white nationalist types will have to make peace with the notion that other people's votes matter just as much as theirs and no amount of gerrymandering and attempts to disenfranchise eligible voters will be enough.

Of course there are many on the right who sympathize with Glenn Ellmers's view that "most people living in the United States today—certainly more than half—are not Americans in any meaningful sense of the term" will support disenfranchisement but that's because they're not actually supporters of democracy and should be openly labelled as anti-democratic. Those people aren't conservatives, they're anti-democratic reactionaries.


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07 Apr 2021, 11:39 am

funeralxempire wrote:
Daddy63 wrote:
funeralxempire wrote:
Making immediate changes to voting laws immediately after losing doesn't smell fishy at all. I can't imagine why people don't trust Republicans to act in anyone but their own's best interests.


Happens all the time. The Democrats changed every law they could prior to the last election. I guess liberals all had covid and couldn't smell the rotten fish at that time.


The mutual distrust is toxic but Kemp's response contributes to the problem instead of addressing it so he has only himself to blame for the fallout.

Changes prior to the election weren't implemented specifically because conservatives didn't rig the election enough to win, unlike the changes afterwards. At some point the white nationalist types will have to make peace with the notion that other people's votes matter just as much as theirs and no amount of gerrymandering and attempts to disenfranchise eligible voters will be enough.

Of course there are many on the right who sympathize with Glenn Ellmers's view that "most people living in the United States today—certainly more than half—are not Americans in any meaningful sense of the term" will support disenfranchisement but that's because they're not actually supporters of democracy and should be openly labelled as anti-democratic. Those people aren't conservatives, they're anti-democratic reactionaries.


So what exactly did Kemp do? Most states have stronger ID requirements than the law he signed. He should have done more just to catch up. Isn't election security important?

The bigger question is do liberals really think Americans are incapable of voting with an ID? Shouldn't we all demand fair elections and that every vote is legal?



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07 Apr 2021, 12:09 pm

Daddy63 wrote:
funeralxempire wrote:
Daddy63 wrote:
funeralxempire wrote:
Making immediate changes to voting laws immediately after losing doesn't smell fishy at all. I can't imagine why people don't trust Republicans to act in anyone but their own's best interests.


Happens all the time. The Democrats changed every law they could prior to the last election. I guess liberals all had covid and couldn't smell the rotten fish at that time.


The mutual distrust is toxic but Kemp's response contributes to the problem instead of addressing it so he has only himself to blame for the fallout.

Changes prior to the election weren't implemented specifically because conservatives didn't rig the election enough to win, unlike the changes afterwards. At some point the white nationalist types will have to make peace with the notion that other people's votes matter just as much as theirs and no amount of gerrymandering and attempts to disenfranchise eligible voters will be enough.

Of course there are many on the right who sympathize with Glenn Ellmers's view that "most people living in the United States today—certainly more than half—are not Americans in any meaningful sense of the term" will support disenfranchisement but that's because they're not actually supporters of democracy and should be openly labelled as anti-democratic. Those people aren't conservatives, they're anti-democratic reactionaries.


So what exactly did Kemp do? Most states have stronger ID requirements than the law he signed. He should have done more just to catch up. Isn't election security important?

The bigger question is do liberals really think Americans are incapable of voting with an ID? Shouldn't we all demand fair elections and that every vote is legal?


If he cared about trust it should have been handled in a non-partisan or at least bipartisan manner. Since it was never about restoring trust he made no attempt to restore trust.


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07 Apr 2021, 12:13 pm

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If he cared about trust it should have been handled in a non-partisan or at least bipartisan manner. Since it was never about restoring trust he made no attempt to restore trust.


The horrible treatment of the previous President ended any trust between the parties. It's not going to get better anytime soon.



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07 Apr 2021, 12:21 pm

Daddy63 wrote:
funeralxempire wrote:
If he cared about trust it should have been handled in a non-partisan or at least bipartisan manner. Since it was never about restoring trust he made no attempt to restore trust.


The horrible treatment of the previous President ended any trust between the parties. It's not going to get better anytime soon.


You're right, the racist reaction to Obama has sewn a huge amount of distrust. I know you were referring to Trump, but his political rise is part of that reaction.


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07 Apr 2021, 12:22 pm

the previous malfeasant white house occupant [and his equally malfeasant sociopathic stooges] basically wrecked this country and anybody who can't see that is willfully ignoring the problems IMHO. ID requirements were put in place specifically because many pofolk don't drive, don't have business licenses, don't do many of the things on that cute little list. plus the fact that in the south, places like DOLs are spread far and few between, and public transit is crap and getting to those places while they are open on a work day is impractical at best. same for polling places closed in Pofolk neighborhoods but not in the lily white upper class ones, resulting in pofolk waiting day and night to exercise their CIVIL RIGHT FRANCHISE OF ALL CITIZENS to vote, and to not allow distribution of water to those waiting in the RESULTANT interminable lines and to expect hopelessly backlogged and overworked poll workers to give out water is just plain RIDICULOUS, CRUEL and STOOOOOPID!! ! PTB down there are doing everything they can to keep pofolk down and out, PERIOD.



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07 Apr 2021, 12:40 pm

funeralxempire wrote:
Daddy63 wrote:
funeralxempire wrote:
If he cared about trust it should have been handled in a non-partisan or at least bipartisan manner. Since it was never about restoring trust he made no attempt to restore trust.


The horrible treatment of the previous President ended any trust between the parties. It's not going to get better anytime soon.


You're right, the racist reaction to Obama has sewn a huge amount of distrust. I know you were referring to Trump, but his political rise is part of that reaction.


The election of Obama was unifying in my opinion. The US reaction to and embrace of him was the opposite of racism.

It was the policies of Obama that divided the nation and lead to the the election of Trump.



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07 Apr 2021, 12:46 pm

auntblabby wrote:
the previous malfeasant white house occupant [and his equally malfeasant sociopathic stooges] basically wrecked this country and anybody who can't see that is willfully ignoring the problems IMHO. ID requirements were put in place specifically because many pofolk don't drive, don't have business licenses, don't do many of the things on that cute little list. plus the fact that in the south, places like DOLs are spread far and few between, and public transit is crap and getting to those places while they are open on a work day is impractical at best. same for polling places closed in Pofolk neighborhoods but not in the lily white upper class ones, resulting in pofolk waiting day and night to exercise their CIVIL RIGHT FRANCHISE OF ALL CITIZENS to vote, and to not allow distribution of water to those waiting in the RESULTANT interminable lines and to expect hopelessly backlogged and overworked poll workers to give out water is just plain RIDICULOUS, CRUEL and STOOOOOPID!! ! PTB down there are doing everything they can to keep pofolk down and out, PERIOD.


'Pofolk':

- buy alcohol
- buy video games
- get welfare benefits
- get married
- buy nail polish
- write checks
- cash checks
- use credit cards
- buy/rent homes
- serve on jury duty
- open a bank accounts

'Pofolk' already have ID. ID checks simply ensure fair elections.



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07 Apr 2021, 12:49 pm

One solution would be for states to issue a voter ID card to registered voters. That every registered and legal voter would have adequate ID to vote.



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07 Apr 2021, 1:00 pm

Daddy63 wrote:
funeralxempire wrote:
Daddy63 wrote:
funeralxempire wrote:
If he cared about trust it should have been handled in a non-partisan or at least bipartisan manner. Since it was never about restoring trust he made no attempt to restore trust.


The horrible treatment of the previous President ended any trust between the parties. It's not going to get better anytime soon.


You're right, the racist reaction to Obama has sewn a huge amount of distrust. I know you were referring to Trump, but his political rise is part of that reaction.


The election of Obama was unifying in my opinion. The US reaction to and embrace of him was the opposite of racism.

It was the policies of Obama that divided the nation and lead to the the election of Trump.


The far-right hostile reaction to Obama started on day 1. While mainstream America mostly embraced him the far-right immediately began peddling racist conspiracies about him.

Mainstream America isn't viciously racist and has a mild tokenist mindset. That doesn't mean that other parts didn't show their true colours as well.


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07 Apr 2021, 1:02 pm

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One solution would be for states to issue a voter ID card to registered voters. That every registered and legal voter would have adequate ID to vote.


That's probably a recommendation that could be adopted if reform was pursued in a non-partisan way. It's probably not one that could be imposed in a partisan manner due to lack of trust.


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07 Apr 2021, 1:42 pm

Hey OP, that article you linked? That's a satire news site, like The Onion.

In addition to also having articles such as "kids that identify as t-rex now allowed to chop arms off" and "john kerry uses jumbo jet to transport private jet to paris climate conference" with an obviously photoshopped small plane being loaded into a cargo jet, despite the smaller plane's WINGS not being able to fit...

...their own page title is "Genesius Times THE MOST RELIABLE SOURCE OF FAKE NEWS ON THE PLANET"

(caps is their doing, not mine)

Genesius was a Roman who was known for acting and comedy.

Congratulations, you played yourself :roll:



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07 Apr 2021, 2:29 pm

uncommondenominator wrote:
Hey OP, that article you linked? That's a satire news site, like The Onion.

In addition to also having articles such as "kids that identify as t-rex now allowed to chop arms off" and "john kerry uses jumbo jet to transport private jet to paris climate conference" with an obviously photoshopped small plane being loaded into a cargo jet, despite the smaller plane's WINGS not being able to fit...

...their own page title is "Genesius Times THE MOST RELIABLE SOURCE OF FAKE NEWS ON THE PLANET"

(caps is their doing, not mine)

Genesius was a Roman who was known for acting and comedy.

Congratulations, you played yourself :roll:


Is it not true?