I'm starting to think some Trump supporters are mentally ill
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His devotees will likely go ape-shirt with prophesies regarding his alleged return.
America will soon have her own King In The Mountain.
And he will return anytime the cheeseburger is threatened!
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I don't have enough time to give my full analysis for everything OP said, but I hope I could sum it short.
- Believe this or not, not everyone voted or supported Donald Trump of his presidency because they were "blindly worshipping" him and even many don't necessarily like the guy as a person that much. Why do you either need to completely love or completely hate Trump?
- To suggest that a single candidate or politician's following has to do with a kind of collective mental illness is pretty absurd.
- Being on the spectrum doesn't mean anybody should or should not support a certain election candidate.
I rest my case here.
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- Believe this or not, not everyone voted or supported Donald Trump of his presidency because they were "blindly worshipping" him and even many don't necessarily like the guy as a person that much. Why do you either need to completely love or completely hate Trump?
- To suggest that a single candidate or politician's following has to do with a kind of collective mental illness is pretty absurd.
- Being on the spectrum doesn't mean anybody should or should not support a certain election candidate.
I rest my case here.
Since when did some start to mean all?
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Being irrational and gullible is a human trait unfortunately. Most people’s brains are evolved to be followers, not thinkers. The fact that a lot of people are easy to brainwash and control explains a lot of weird s**t you have with ancient civilizations... like people willingly building gigantic tombs for leaders they worship as gods... even human sacrifices. I think fear of deprivation tied with change brings this ancient darkness to the surface.
People don’t like obvious dark-triad personalities in power. People were scared of him. Its like you punch people in the face and then act surprised when they hit back. Its like you have zero empathy.
In court records of people arrested in the wake of the Jan. 6 coup attempt on the Capital building in Washington D.C., 68% reported they had received mental health diagnoses (i.e., addictions, anxiety, bipolar disorders, depression, Munchausen syndrome by proxy, paranoid schizophrenia, post-traumatic stress disorder, et cetera).
Source: This Marketwatch Article .
It would seem that our former Narcissist-In-Chief is not the only one who is "Reality-Challenged"!
Depression and anxiety do not cause people believe stupid conspiracy theories. Paranoid schizophrenia, yes, but I doubt that many of these people were schizophrenic.
Maybe .. possibly .. there is 1 mentally ill individual in that group.
You're using the same argument apologists from religions or groups that have higher rates of criminal or sordid behavior use to absolve any pathologization or indictment, which is hiding behind the large number of a group to say that its only a random anomaly explainable only by basic probability and large sample size rather than something inherent in the group that would create such noticeably pathologic behavior. Catholics do the same thing when trying to brush the massive pedophile and rape scandal under rug, blacks when they try to ignore the massive homicide rate in the black community, and Muslims when they try to mitigate the extent of the issue of honor killings in Muslim society.
I've seen the craziest Hillary/Biden supporters have to offer and the craziest the Trump supporters have to offer and its no contest the group with the more conspicuous crazies would have to be the Trump supporter bad apples.
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- Believe this or not, not everyone voted or supported Donald Trump of his presidency because they were "blindly worshipping" him and even many don't necessarily like the guy as a person that much. Why do you either need to completely love or completely hate Trump?
- To suggest that a single candidate or politician's following has to do with a kind of collective mental illness is pretty absurd.
- Being on the spectrum doesn't mean anybody should or should not support a certain election candidate.
I rest my case here.
You rest nothing here because even a cursory glance through my post would suggest everything you stated was completely not even relevant since never once did I imply any of the straw mans you tried to refute
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'The Means'
Ahem... Surprised to See 'Some Folks' 'Here' Extrapolating The Extreme
(Mentally Ill As Diagnosed) Element of Trump Supporters
Who Invaded the White House for An Insurrection As
Obviously Believing That Was Gonna
Succeed And Actually Going Through
It is Not What 'The Average Trump
Voter' Will Do; In Fact
Obviously As A Group
They Are Less Likely to Come
Together In The Street And Protest
At Least if they Are Conservative as
That Doesn't Take Much Brain Power
to Figure Out; Only
Common Sense
Per the Human Animal
And The Rest of the Animal Kingdom
Where Science Assesses About 20 Percent
Are Sitters and 80 Percent Are Rovers; Go Figure,
There Are More Sails than Anchors to Keep A Boat Afloat...
Okay, Give Me a Break, the Q-Anon Theories Are No More Rational
Than Believing A 40 Year-Old Story A 'Zillion Rounds' Around A Round Table
As Original Oral Traditional Myth As Transferred to A Book of Myths Revised 1400 Years of so
Later Is Literally True That A Little Brown Dude Crucified on A Cross Came Back to Life As The God
Of the Universe (All Loving Forgiving) And Will Burn 'You' Forever As A Metaphor of A Goat Transformed
From A Sheep If You Don't
Feed the Homeless
Person on the Street
And Give Him Your
Shirt For His Naked Skin
If He Minds Being Naked At All On the Street;
Ahem, It's Worth Noting Still That Billions of
People in the World Believe This Myth Is Literally
True; No Different than the Frigging Q-Anon Non-Sense;
And A Majority of Americans Still Do Who are Not Diagnosed
With Mental Illness, Yet Are Born With the Human Condition that
Science Shows is Far From Objectively Rational As Neuroscience
Shows We Basically Hallucinate Our Realities Based on Hallucinations
Our Minds Create Before As What We 'Metaphor' As Reality of Our Experience Now....
The Q-Anon Conspiracy Theories Are
No Less Mythical And Non-Sensical
Than The Jesus Resurrection Story
And True There is A Correlation
of Those Who Believe Both
Non-Sensical Irrational Stories;
Yet There is the Rest of the Majority
of the United States; 68 Percent As Assessed
By Harris Poll, Still Believing A Myth is Literally
True And Sadly Missing A Whole Dam Message
That the Myth Provides That Indeed in This Life
Human Beings Will Transform From the Living Dead
Back Into The Eyes of A Child Who Plays Free Instead of Playing Dead....
It's Worth Noting That only About 5 Percent of the Last Renaissance
Were Actually Involved in 'That Enlightening' Way of Life Not
Much has changed
Even among
Those
Who Insist
They are Rational
And Are Led around
Most by Emotions of
Fear And Aggression
And One-upmanship
To Finally 'Be Someone'...
Like It's Not Enough to Become
All One Nature Truly Worthy of a Name Greater than God...
Yet We aRe Getting into 'Newer Renaissance Territory' Now;
Not everyone is even willing to Come.... Again.... For Real Now;
Surely Not The 68 Percent; Perhaps Part of the More 'Rational 17 Percent'
Yet Ironically, There is 'Real Chaos Magic' As Metaphor As After All Quantum
Mechanics Shows That Time, Distance, Space, And Even Matter
Is Illusion
And Reality
Human Minds
Create As 'Real
Chaos Magic'; It's
All Magic And A Miracle
We Create; It's Kinda Sad
That Folks Stick to Old Dusty
Stories And Don't Become 'The
Author They Wanna Read Most As Least' (All)...
i Don't Expect Anyone to Understand This Story
As By Very Nature Every Word is Metaphor
And Myth; Only an Approximation of
Our Realities We Create Through
The Stories We Symbol
Our Best Mutually
And Consensually to Understand
Through All the Stories We Art Now
That We Even Provide an Illusion Of Order Of Reality As 'Science' too...
What We Feel and Sense Now Is Most Real, Yet It Makes Folks Feel
Good to Believe Myths are Literally True So They DO... NOW
The 'Realest Part'; 'The Truth' is How We Feel and Sense Life
Now; No Matter 'What Clothes We Wear' to Feel and Sense Now...
Meh, Labels Societies Create to Determine Who Is Included And
Who Is Excluded From Whatever 'Group Think' Says is "Normal"
Hint:
None
Of It's Normal
And Most Of What
Is Determined Normal
Is Truly Insanity As Folks
Worship Pain More than Pleasure...
Like Kneeling in Front of a Little Brown
Man Hanging on A Cross Suffering Changed Into Someone Who Looks
Like the Painting Leonardo DaVinci Recorded As HiS Own Style of Look in a "Last Supper"...
"Last Supper"...
Read 'That'
Again Until
Ya Understand
What 'They' Are Still Eating...
And Relate It to 'The Twilight
Zone' Show About What the
Cook Book 'To Serve Man' Really Is;
A Book With A Page That Says go no further Be Dead Living...
Anchors And Sails; Anchors And Sails; 'The Dead' Raise the Living Boats...
'The End'
https://theharrispoll.com/the-harris-poll-makes-headlines-with-its-november-2013-survey-on-americas-belief-in-god-results-of-this-study-are-featured-in-united-press-international-u-s-news-world-report-and-more/
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- Believe this or not, not everyone voted or supported Donald Trump of his presidency because they were "blindly worshipping" him and even many don't necessarily like the guy as a person that much. Why do you either need to completely love or completely hate Trump?
- To suggest that a single candidate or politician's following has to do with a kind of collective mental illness is pretty absurd.
- Being on the spectrum doesn't mean anybody should or should not support a certain election candidate.
I rest my case here.
Since when did some start to mean all?
I correct myself, I realized the OP clearly said "some" and not all.
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Dear OP,
I recommend two books by Peter Pomerantsev:
"Nothing is true and everything is possible"- about his time as a journalist in Russia in the early 2000s, in which he recounts the reality-distorting media landscape in Putin'Russia and the effect it has on people and politics.
And
"This is not propaganda"-
About how propaganda worked during his father's life in the soviet union, compared to how online information warfare works today.
You have to understand that the Teump supporters you're talking about all fell into some rabbit hole because the reality they perceived every day did not line up with the reality the majority of the media portrayed.
The main problem is that "the mainstream media" really are peddling falsehoods.
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I can read facial expressions. I did the test.
I recommend two books by Peter Pomerantsev:
"Nothing is true and everything is possible"- about his time as a journalist in Russia in the early 2000s, in which he recounts the reality-distorting media landscape in Putin'Russia and the effect it has on people and politics.
And
"This is not propaganda"-
About how propaganda worked during his father's life in the soviet union, compared to how online information warfare works today.
You have to understand that the Teump supporters you're talking about all fell into some rabbit hole because the reality they perceived every day did not line up with the reality the majority of the media portrayed.
The main problem is that "the mainstream media" really are peddling falsehoods.
I dont deny that the mainstream media is peddling falsehoods, in fact im the 1st one to admit to it. However the Trump media peddles 1000 times the falsehood I ever saw from the mainstream media. Breitbart, the website Trump supporters use, has so many cases of fake news and libels that its a miracle that the thing hasn't shut down yet
The solution to fake news and bad mainstream media reporting isn't to go ahead and create counter fake news. Thats not how it works
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"One often meets his destiny on the road he takes to avoid it."
Master Oogway
Hey Salad, You are making some excellent points but let me suggest to you to ignore the mainstream media and look at some independent news sources. The MSN has no objectivity and are now a propaganda machine.
There is a book you ought to read called Liberal Fascism by Johna Goldberg. It is an excellent primer on how politics actually work.
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