The British Double Decked Trains.

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18 Apr 2021, 3:46 pm

British railways were made to fit what was in the early days, thought to be a generous loading gauge but with the increasing success of the railways carrying ever increasing loads, what was once considered to be generous was later found to be restrictive, and by then it was too late. The system was already built. Some railways were even layed on top of old canal beds so they had an even lower loading gauge height to contend with.
But though much of Britain's railways had to finds its ways through towns and cities that were already there And though space was a restriction, this does not mean that Britains design and development engineers were not willing to try and address the problem, and here is a novel solution to help carry extra passengers on the crowded Southern Region of London.


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18 Apr 2021, 5:41 pm

I would have loved to have been on one of those trains.


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18 Apr 2021, 5:52 pm

I would have liked to have seen them to see how they were designed.


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19 Apr 2021, 3:45 am

Never been on one of these or heard of them but now I want to


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19 Apr 2021, 3:51 am

They were built in 1949 and withdrawn in 1971.


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19 Apr 2021, 4:09 am

I seem to recollect Sydney has double decker trains



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19 Apr 2021, 4:11 am

Many places have them, but how many fit them under a single deck loading gauge? (Actually these were a few inches higher so had to be route restricted, but they were not far off).


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19 Apr 2021, 6:48 am

There were only ever two of these experimental 4-car units built (so 8 vehicles in total). Two vehicles survive but they're both in very poor condition.

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By all accounts they were cramped inside, but the main failing was it took too long for people to get in and out. This meant station dwell times had to be increased, making their journey times slower than normal, and reducing line capacity. So an interesting idea, but not very successful in the end.



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19 Apr 2021, 7:09 am

Okay, true, I've not yet watched the video, at the moment the only even potentially conceivable way I can see to get a 2 deck passenger car in the UK loading gauge is with TARDIS technology.

Excepting the Blackpool, or was it Blackburn, trams.


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19 Apr 2021, 7:13 am

"Station stopping time significantly nullified the advantage".

I'm going to say that I recall that happening with a couple different products of transportation genius.


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19 Apr 2021, 7:41 am

kitesandtrainsandcats wrote:
Okay, true, I've not yet watched the video, at the moment the only even potentially conceivable way I can see to get a 2 deck passenger car in the UK loading gauge is with TARDIS technology.

Excepting the Blackpool, or was it Blackburn, trams.


Many tramways in the UK used to be double decked. It would be Blackpool that you saw the trams.


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