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21 Apr 2021, 5:24 pm

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The Federal Government announced last night that it’s torn up the Victorian Government’s deal with China under the Belt and Road program.

It’s the first time the Morrison Government has used its new power to override deals done by state and territory governments.

The move comes amid already tense relations between Australia and China which has seen trade retaliation from Beijing.



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22 Apr 2021, 1:59 am

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Victorian government 'off its head' to independently enter Belt and Road initiative
22/04/2021|6min

States and territories are “absolutely nuts” if they think they can make decisions on Australia’s foreign policy or in the national interest, according to Independent Senator Jacqui Lambie.

She told Sky News while they had been “fabulous” throughout COVID-19 and with the vaccine rollout, in regards to national security “I would suggest they take a step backwards and let the federal government do its job”.

Ms Lambie also said the Victorian government was “completely off its head” to sign on to China’s Belt and Road initiative of its own accord.

“I think the Chinese were very sly in the way that they did that but I’m very surprised the Victorian government fell into it actually, we’re still not quite 100 per cent sure exactly whether they got anything out of it personally behind closed doors or what went on there.

“But quite frankly thinking that you can make decisions at a state or territory level when it comes to our foreign policy and our national security, you’re absolutely nuts. It’s never going to happen, and it should never happen.”

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22 Apr 2021, 2:03 am

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Victoria responds to federal decision to axe Belt and Road deal with China
22/04/2021|2min

The Andrews government has responded to the federal government’s decision to scrap Victoria’s Belt and Road agreement with China - acknowledging the foreign Relations Act is a Commonwealth responsibility.

The controversial Belt and Road initiative involves a large-scale network of Chinese-funded infrastructure projects stretching from Asia to Europe.

The statement released by a spokesperson for the Victorian government said, “the Foreign Relations Act is entirely a matter for the Commonwealth government”.

“The Victorian government will continue to work hard to deliver jobs, trade and economic opportunities for our state."

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22 Apr 2021, 4:48 am

Did you see the clip of the Chinese diplomat who accused Australia of treating China like a cow - milking her in her prime, while planning to slaughter her later ?

(I picked up on it because I'd never heard the metaphor before.)



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22 Apr 2021, 5:07 am

ScoMos gusto in wrecking this deal obviously has nothing to do with Victoria being a labor state does it :roll:



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22 Apr 2021, 5:08 am

MrsPeel wrote:
Did you see the clip of the Chinese diplomat who accused Australia of treating China like a cow - milking her in her prime, while planning to slaughter her later ?

(I picked up on it because I'd never heard the metaphor before.)


The Chinese are notorious for making weird metaphors and slurs



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22 Apr 2021, 6:12 am

And sometimes the Chinese government doesn't seem to understand our ways of thinking too well.
Did you see the reporting on their propaganda video about how wonderfully they're treating the Uighyurs?
It's like they start believing their own propaganda and are then genuinely surprised when it goes down like a lead balloon in other countries.



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22 Apr 2021, 7:21 am

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ScoMos gusto in wrecking this deal obviously has nothing to do with Victoria being a labor state does it :roll:


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Hyperpartisanship.


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States and territories are “absolutely nuts” if they think they can make decisions on Australia’s foreign policy or in the national interest, according to Independent Senator Jacqui Lambie.



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22 Apr 2021, 7:23 am

MrsPeel wrote:
And sometimes the Chinese government doesn't seem to understand our ways of thinking too well.
Did you see the reporting on their propaganda video about how wonderfully they're treating the Uighyurs?
It's like they start believing their own propaganda and are then genuinely surprised when it goes down like a lead balloon in other countries.

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22 Apr 2021, 5:40 pm

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Belt and Road Initiative cancellation method a 'change in tack'


Sky News Political Editor Andrew Clennell says the way in which the controversial Belt and Road Initiative was cancelled is a “change in tack”.

On Wednesday night the Commonwealth used its sweeping new veto laws introduced last year to scrap four deals between Victorian authorities and other countries.

“Last year Scott Morrison would be holding a press conference announcing this,” Mr Clennell said.

“Obviously don’t want to antagonise the Chinese government so much so it comes in the form of a statement released last night.

“There’s not the megaphone out there so much.”

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22 Apr 2021, 6:14 pm

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Further decisions on foreign relations deals will be made in ‘due course’: Minister Payne
22/04/2021|4min

The Morrison government expects there to be further deals scrapped under the new foreign relations bills in “due course,” amid the axing of Victoria’s Belt and Road agreement.

The Morrison government axed the controversial Belt and Road initiative agreement between Beijing and Victoria on Wednesday night using its broad foreign relations powers legislated last year.

Foreign Affairs Minister Payne announced on Wednesday the government would scrap the deal which would see the communist superpower bankroll Victoria’s major infrastructure projects.

In a joint press conference with her New Zealand counterpart Nanaia Mahuta, Minister Payne spoke of her decision to tear up four agreements entered into by the Victoria government concerning Syria, Iran, and China.

“The determination that we have formed is that they are not consistent with Australia’s approach to foreign policy and under the legislation will be terminated,” Minister Payne said.

“I do expect there will be further decisions to be made in due course.”


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22 Apr 2021, 7:57 pm

MrsPeel wrote:
And sometimes the Chinese government doesn't seem to understand our ways of thinking too well.
Did you see the reporting on their propaganda video about how wonderfully they're treating the Uighyurs?
It's like they start believing their own propaganda and are then genuinely surprised when it goes down like a lead balloon in other countries.


China, Iran and Russia have their own way of thinking that reflects the cultural norms of their society. All three countries are anti-western partly for historic reasons but partly because they object to western countries imposing our values/morals/ethics on their countries.

What we think is truth and justice isn't always seen that way in their country and their responses seem weird to us but seem perfectly appropriate to them. For example China is threatening us thanks to Scomo's ill chosen language. Scomo has virtually zero cultural competency.



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23 Apr 2021, 1:04 am

cyberdad wrote:
China, Iran and Russia have their own way of thinking that reflects the cultural norms of their society. All three countries are anti-western partly for historic reasons but partly because they object to western countries imposing our values/morals/ethics on their countries.

What we think is truth and justice isn't always seen that way in their country and their responses seem weird to us but seem perfectly appropriate to them.


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23 Apr 2021, 1:19 am

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Chinese language centres under review
23/04/2021|2min

Foreign Minister Marise Payne has warned further projects with overseas powers could be derailed under sweeping new veto laws legislated last year which saw Victoria’s controversial Belt and Road deal scrapped.

At least two Chinese language centres located on university campuses are currently under review – Confucius Institutes at the Universities of Queensland and Adelaide.

The centres have sparked controversy over perceived links to the Chinese government, with critics claiming they could influence Chinese language and cultural education in Australia.

“We also have to acknowledge that China’s outlook, the nature of China’s external engagement both in our region and globally has changed in recent years,” Ms Payne said on Thursday.

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23 Apr 2021, 1:23 am

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Marise Payne made the 'correct decision' axing Belt and Road agreement: Rex Patrick
22/04/2021|2min

Independent Senator Rex Patrick says it was the “correct decision” for the federal government to axe the Belt and Road Initiative agreement between Victoria and China.

“When the government of Victoria announced this back in 2018 that gave rise to a call I made in the Senate to in actual fact review our relationship with China,” he told Sky News.

Mr Patrick said the deal was “not in Australia’s interest” and he did not think it appropriate for the deal to have been struck.

“This agreement was in essence made in secret, I don’t think it’s appropriate for these sorts of agreements to be made unilaterally by a state without involvement and consultation of the federal government.”

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23 Apr 2021, 7:33 pm

Pepe wrote:
cyberdad wrote:
China, Iran and Russia have their own way of thinking that reflects the cultural norms of their society. All three countries are anti-western partly for historic reasons but partly because they object to western countries imposing our values/morals/ethics on their countries.

What we think is truth and justice isn't always seen that way in their country and their responses seem weird to us but seem perfectly appropriate to them.


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Here are 10 critics of Vladimir Putin who died violently or in suspicious ways

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wor ... ious-ways/

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China breaching every article in genocide convention

viewtopic.php?t=395138#p8738377

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The state of human rights in the Islamic Republic of Iran has been criticized by Iranians and international human right activists, by writers, and NGOs. The United Nations General Assembly and the Human Rights Commission[1] have condemned prior and ongoing abuses in Iran in published critiques and several resolutions. The government of Iran is criticized both for restrictions and punishments that follow the Islamic Republic's constitution and law, and for "extrajudicial" actions by state actors that do not, such as the torture, rape, and killing of political prisoners, and the beatings and killings of dissidents and other civilians.[2] Capital punishment in Iran remains a matter of international concern.

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I see you are still using Darmok's technique of ridiculing somebody using visual metaphors when they have a different view to your own pepe....try using information