Board index › General Discussion › News and Current Events

China is 'deadly earnest' in its quest

Page 1 of 1 [ 6 posts ] 

Previous topic | Next topic

Pepe
Veteran
Veteran

Joined: 11 Jun 2013
Gender: Non-binary
Posts: 26,635
Location: Australia

29 Apr 2021, 1:59 am

Quote:
China is 'deadly earnest' in its quest to become the 21st century's global power
29/04/2021|5min

President Joe Biden has used his first prime time address to a joint sitting of Congress to warn America that China's President Xi Jinping is “deadly earnest” in his quest to ensure his country becomes the dominant global power in 2021.

He warned there needs to be a greater degree of bipartisanship, especially when it comes to security, technology and infrastructure investment.

“We can't be so busy competing with one another that we forget the competition we have with the rest of the world to win the 21st century,” President Biden said.

"I spent a lot of time with President Xi Jinping, spent over 24 hours in private discussion with him.

"When he called to congratulate me we had a two-hour discussion. He is deadly earnest about becoming the most significant and consequential nation in the world.

"He and others, autocrats, think that democracy can't compete in the 21st century with autocracies.

https://www.skynews.com.au/details/_625 ... al%20power



cyberdad
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 21 Feb 2011
Age: 56
Gender: Male
Posts: 34,284

29 Apr 2021, 2:12 am

You'll notice the author used the word "autocracy" not communists...



Pepe
Veteran
Veteran

Joined: 11 Jun 2013
Gender: Non-binary
Posts: 26,635
Location: Australia

29 Apr 2021, 4:57 am

Quote:
Officially, the CCP is committed to communism and continues to participate in the International Meeting of Communist and Workers' Parties each year. According to the party constitution, the CCP adheres to Marxism–Leninism, Mao Zedong Thought, socialism with Chinese characteristics, Deng Xiaoping Theory, the Three Represents, the Scientific Outlook on Development, and Xi Jinping Thought. The official explanation for China's economic reforms is that the country is in the primary stage of socialism, a developmental stage similar to the capitalist mode of production. The command economy established under Mao Zedong was replaced by the socialist market economy under Deng Xiaoping, the current economic system, on the basis that "Practice is the Sole Criterion for the Truth".
Chinese Communist Party - Wikipedia



MrsPeel
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 1 Oct 2017
Age: 52
Gender: Non-binary
Posts: 1,746
Location: Australia

29 Apr 2021, 7:12 am

I agree we should be careful with the labels we use for China.
They are communist but also highly nationalistic.
They are an autocracy but also a manufacturing powerhouse.
Third world conditions in some areas and first in others.
So they don't fit into convenient boxes.



GGPViper
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 23 Sep 2009
Gender: Male
Posts: 5,880

29 Apr 2021, 8:02 am

China hasn't been communist since 1978.

What they adhere to is "Socialism with Chinese Characteristics":
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socialism ... cteristics

The CCP continues to label itself as Communist because this is what gives the party legitimacy, but the party - both formally and in practice - follows the ideas of Deng Xiaoping and his successors, not Mao Zedong.



naturalplastic
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 26 Aug 2010
Age: 69
Gender: Male
Posts: 34,150
Location: temperate zone

29 Apr 2021, 11:50 am

They practice capitalism (do so with a vengence), and invite foreign private capital.

So they are not communist and not marxist anymore. They have as much inequality as any capitalist country now.

But they certainly arent a Jeffersonian democracy either.

"Autocracy" is a fine word for them (rule by an authoritarian regime of no particular ideology). Fascist could also apply (totalitarian dictatorship government but with private ownership of the means of production in society). Chinese society is more like fascist Italy, Spain under Franco, and Nazi Germany, now, more than it resembles any nation in the communist bloc (including itself) during the Cold War.

We Americans dream of the North Korean regime surrending to South Korea, and becoming part of a unified democratic capitalist pro American Korea like the south is now. Obviously that isnt gonna happen anytime soon.

A more realistic wish is for North Korea model itself after its ally China, and stay authoritarian, but become capitalistic - and for it to invite in foreign capital. Its standard of living will rise, and its people would be better off. And indeed China has been trying to get the Norks to do just that, follow their model, ever since the Eighties days of Glasnost and Perstroika. But to no avail. North Korea remains both communist and stays with its ideology of self sufficiency that goes even beyond communism. Its not a sustainable system. My guess as to way the Nork regime refuses to even use China as a role model is because they fear loss of autonomy. Foreign capital means foreign influence.