cyberdad wrote:
Good question! I thought they were NSBM but to be honest they didn't choose any labels other than being "Oi" culture which I have probably conflated with NSBM, What I can tell you is the cliquishness of the American or European black metal culture wouldn't apply in Malaysia or Indonesia as they largely adopt the music (this is pre-internet times I am talking about) without necessarily understanding the nuance of the history or being particularly identitarian. I found these dudes to be pretty open to new experiences.
Metal can be very cliquey and elitist, and that attitude often was even worse towards to other genres that often ended up being embraced by other metal heads (punk, hardcore, oi, industrial, etc).
I don't think you'd conflate the two in person though, they definitely have different fashion senses. You don't see too many guys with green mohawks running around with old European pagan symbols, and you don't see too many guys in corpsepaint with those pagan symbols with big Exploited or Sham 69 patches.
I've always been under the impression that most people who openly like NSBM bands are further down the rabbit hole (so to speak) than typical fans of RAC (Rock Against Communism/oi for the WS crowd). Saying you're 'against communism' is much more acceptable than flat-out identifying as a Nazi.
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