Are you fully vaccinated for COVID-19?

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Covid is rapidly becoming the pandemic of the unvaccinated.

Over 80% of adults here have had the first jab and over 60% the second yet the infection rates seem just as high as this point last year. Nearly 30% of those who have died have been those in the 60% group who have been double jabbed.

The virus is clearly sinking it's teeth into those with antibodies against it.

From which YouTube video did you obtain this?

Wales online and the governments own website.

Edit, Wales online got their source from public health England. A very reputable source.

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Links, please?

It's considerably more nuanced than that might appear - see: https://theconversation.com/most-covid- ... you-163671 among many similar.
Executive summary: older people are more likely to die. Who'd-a-thunk it.

More details from the yellow card reporting: https://www.gov.uk/government/publicati ... -reporting

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/993198/Variants_of_Concern_VOC_Technical_Briefing.pdf

https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/details/vaccinations

The number of infections make little sense if it's only being spread among the rapidly dwindling unvaccinated.

Yep, had my 2nd Pfizer dose at the end of June.

It makes great deal of sense, considering the "rapidly dwindling unvaccinated" population is only an assumption.

Now show me exactly which pages and paragraphs support your claims.

Go ahead.  I will wait.

Every day at this point in July, there are about 1/10 to 1/20 the amount of daily deaths from COVID in the UK as there were in January.

There were about 1,000-1,500 deaths per day in the UK during early January. Now, there are about 50 deaths per day on a really bad day.

Let me emphasize: one death a day is too much.

Multiple fully vaccinated people are dying every day in the UK. I'm afraid your goal of zero deaths is far outside the ability of modern medicine and might be generations away from being achievable.

Are you aware of what over 80% of the adult population having some sort of vaccine related antibodies?

It means that the the other 20% are dwindling rapidly at the current vaccination rates. 20% is "dwindle" and "rapidly" is the industrial levels of vaccinations the UK has managed to do daily.

So yeah. Dwindling rapidly.

I mentioned in my post on the 4th page of this thread that I had a horrible reaction to the 2nd dose of the Pfizer vaccine. I usually get the flue vaccines every year & I sometimes have minor reactions to them but nothing anywhere near that horrid. The difference in side-effects I had between the flue vaccines & the 2nd Pfizer Covid one is like the difference between bumping into a parked car while your walking & being hit by a fast moving bus while your crossing the street. I may be a rare exception though. My girlfriend was rundown for a bit after hers but nothing near as bad as me. My parents had the Moderna vaccines & dad was a little rundown & sore for a couple days after the 2nd one but nowhere near as bad as me either & mom was about the same as usual. I very seldom get sick but when I do it tends to be very hard & fast unless it's a bacterial thing like a sinus infection & then I could drag on & on until I go to the doc. Cass could be dragging with a sickness for a couple weeks feeling rundown but when I get that same sickness, I get a bad fever for like a day & I'm completely back to normal after two days. It's a very good thing I am not living alone because fevers have made me delirious on a few other occasions. Those times I need somebody to put a cold pack on my head &/or lead me to the bathroom to take a cold shower, bring me water & Tylenol, that type of stuff. It's very odd because I almost never get sick though. There could be a bad cold going around that most everybody is getting & I would be one of the few people who seem to be immune. Two of the jobs I had involved custodial stuff & I never wore gloves even 1ce cuz I hate the feel of them & I may be allergic to latex & I did not pay much attention to washing my hands or other hygiene stuff. I was much more focused on keeping everything else cleaned at work than myself & I would be one of the few who would not get sick when there is an illness going around.

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Death rates are skewed because older people die more often than younger people, and they're more likely to be adversely effected by Covid.
From a link I posted earlier:
Also, this: Source: Most COVID deaths in England now are in the vaccinated – here’s why that shouldn’t alarm you

It's simple numbers, really. 1000-1500 deaths a day versus 50 deaths a day (on a bad day).

I think those numbers are acceptable at the moment. Zero deaths on the other hand will never happen for the foreseeable future.