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05 Sep 2021, 10:45 am

Watching the National News concerning Texas . Am seeing Communist type legislation appearing
regarding new laws about abortion . Included in this law is the Paying off of Public informants
for turning in their neighbours and others for reporting Women that have ( post ) after 6 week term abortions. This is a very personal thing concerning women having control of their own bodies .
the Late USSR , had people informing on their neighbours .
But , i believe something else is actually behind this law . Traditionally the larger amount of the women population that have unexpected pregnancies . Are lower income and victims of violence people , i think. So if you make it uncomfortable for these same people to live in your State.
You also influence the people that vote for elected officials . So people with 'the interests' of the lower income population are much smaller in the voting Public. So you also affect the Outcomes of 'all elections' in the State of Texas .


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05 Sep 2021, 3:03 pm

Jakki wrote:
Watching the National News concerning Texas . Am seeing Communist type legislation appearing
regarding new laws about abortion .

Did any Communist country ever such a law?

Jakki wrote:
Included in this law is the Paying off of Public informants
for turning in their neighbours and others for reporting Women that have ( post ) after 6 week term abortions. This is a very personal thing concerning women having control of their own bodies .
the Late USSR , had people informing on their neighbours .

Perhaps you meant "totalitarian" here? The former Communist countries were not the only "totalitarian" countries.


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05 Sep 2021, 3:09 pm

It's totalitarianism, but I fail to see how it's like Communism.

Communism generally tends to be opposed to measures that the make women second class citizens, at least to the extent the society practising it is able to accommodate those ideas. Since most of the places where Leninism was practiced were backwards and deeply patriarchal they often failed to live up to those ideals, but I'd blame that failing on their existing norms, not on the new ones they've attempted to adopt.

Yes, Texas is passing a deeply totalitarian law, but it's much more in line with the what traditionalists and theocrats would prefer, not Communists.


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05 Sep 2021, 3:18 pm

I just looked up the Webster definition of Communism
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/communism

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Definition of communism

1a : a system in which goods are owned in common and are available to all as needed
b : a theory advocating elimination of private property
2 capitalized a : a doctrine based on revolutionary Marxian socialism and Marxism-Leninism that was the official ideology of the U.S.S.R.
b : a totalitarian system of government in which a single authoritarian party controls state-owned means of production
c : a final stage of society in Marxist theory in which the state has withered away and economic goods are distributed equitably
d : communist systems collectively
This does not sound much like the stereotypical Texan to me. This definition of Communism sounds a lot like what the hard-core conservatives in places like Texas are against.


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05 Sep 2021, 5:41 pm

nick007 wrote:
I just looked up the Webster definition of Communism
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/communism
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Definition of communism

1a : a system in which goods are owned in common and are available to all as needed
b : a theory advocating elimination of private property
2 capitalized a : a doctrine based on revolutionary Marxian socialism and Marxism-Leninism that was the official ideology of the U.S.S.R.
b : a totalitarian system of government in which a single authoritarian party controls state-owned means of production
c : a final stage of society in Marxist theory in which the state has withered away and economic goods are distributed equitably
d : communist systems collectively
This does not sound much like the stereotypical Texan to me. This definition of Communism sounds a lot like what the hard-core conservatives in places like Texas are against.

I am a Texan and I am sort of a stereotypical one and I am a hard core conservative but I believe private property is not the ideal for human society.I think a stereotypical Texan would be more likely to be religioiously based communist and not Marxist Style Communist.However most conservative Texans would not give up their property unless it was some sort of religious based intentional community.I believe private property goes against Jesus but my communism is not motivated by Karl Marx.The Marxist communist in places like Austin would not back the new abortion law.I dont think that communism should be mandated by the state but rather a private arrangement.



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05 Sep 2021, 7:14 pm

Please don't chop my post , and try to address individual phrases or sentences . It was meant as
a entire concept . it is my best knowledge to understand, that in Russia s USSR was a communist based government as a whole of its various States . It is a widely held belief that . That Government
Would would look favorably upon any person that turned in anyone . For breaking any laws of the State . Whether in their home or not. ( to the best of my knowledge) . Texas is enacting a similiar
Law regarding womens bodies . Much more Private to any Woman. Even more so ,than anyones
private property . but this is merely my own conclusions , regarding this posting.


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05 Sep 2021, 7:16 pm

Jakki wrote:
Please don't chop my post , and try to address individual phrases or sentences . It was meant as
a entire concept . it is my best knowledge to understand, that in Russia s USSR was a communist based government as a whole of its various States . It is a widely held belief that . That Government
Would would look favorably upon any person that turned in anyone . For breaking any laws of the State . Whether in their home or not. ( to the best of my knowledge) . Texas is enacting a similiar
Law regarding womens bodies . Much more Private to any Woman. Even more so ,than anyones
private property . but this is merely my own conclusions , regarding this posting.


If people find a particular part misinformed or otherwise problematic why wouldn't they focus on what's a problem?


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05 Sep 2021, 7:37 pm

Jakki wrote:
Please don't chop my post , and try to address individual phrases or sentences . It was meant as
a entire concept . it is my best knowledge to understand, that in Russia s USSR was a communist based government as a whole of its various States . It is a widely held belief that . That Government
Would would look favorably upon any person that turned in anyone . For breaking any laws of the State . Whether in their home or not. ( to the best of my knowledge) . Texas is enacting a similiar
Law regarding womens bodies . Much more Private to any Woman. Even more so ,than anyones
private property . but this is merely my own conclusions , regarding this posting.


I’m also guilty of writing too much sometimes, which leads to some people taking bits here and there and try and dissect and therefore, discredit my takes. Anyway, there has been communism, or rather, changes toward totalitarian all over the world as of late. With all the technology out there, there are more people out to follow you, on social media, to picture/film without consent, to “rat” on you. I’m looking at this, where we are being very influenced by the politically correctness and the heart values are going out the drain. Sad…



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05 Sep 2021, 7:49 pm

Jakki wrote:
Please don't chop my post , and try to address individual phrases or sentences . It was meant as
a entire concept . it is my best knowledge to understand, that in Russia s USSR was a communist based government as a whole of its various States . It is a widely held belief that . That Government
Would would look favorably upon any person that turned in anyone . For breaking any laws of the State . Whether in their home or not. ( to the best of my knowledge) . Texas is enacting a similiar
Law regarding womens bodies . Much more Private to any Woman. Even more so ,than anyones
private property . but this is merely my own conclusions , regarding this posting.


,I hope i am able to get my idea across, People, in my experience , have a tendency to abuse such Laws and use to their advantage , If for no other reason than just plain meaness . This means if your neighbour (wants you to feel harassed , Or wants you to feel abused and vulnerable as woman). they just might turn you
into the police. Maybe after you have lived through this sort of thing . You could use all your money
up and sue them . But then you get to relive this kinda thing ( Everytime you see your neighbour) .
Police could abuse such a law if they dont like something about you or their buddies don t like you.
Just Imagine . if they,wanted you to move. So their buddies could live , in your house cause they want to be living near their buddie or relative. Please do not live in a fairy tale land . Please do not imagine laws are always used fairly.


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05 Sep 2021, 8:07 pm

The new abortion law does smack of dictatorships. Including dictatorships that were communist in ideology (there have been other kinds of dictatorships).

In fact it smacks of the kinds of thinga the defunct regime that ruled Communist East Germany would be obsessed with doing- recruiting and rewarding the citizens for informing on you to the secret police.

But what makes a "Communist" regime "Communist" (as opposed to fascist, or whatever) is the creed that motivates the dictatorship. Communist ideology was about achieving equality - the working class rules- and creates a classless society. Its a seductive idealistic vision of heaven on earth. Trouble comes when you try to make it real. To actually implement communist ideals you get Stalin and the worst kinds of dictatorship.

The Texas legislature are capitalism loving anti communists (much like Hitler and Mussolini). So they are not motivated by communist ideals. So its confusing and misleading to call what they are doing "Communism".

Just call it "totalitarianism". Or "dictatorship". Or say that its "like both Communism and Fascism".



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05 Sep 2021, 10:33 pm

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The new abortion law does smack of dictatorships. Including dictatorships that were communist in ideology (there have been other kinds of dictatorships).

In fact it smacks of the kinds of thinga the defunct regime that ruled Communist East Germany would be obsessed with doing- recruiting and rewarding the citizens for informing on you to the secret police.

But what makes a "Communist" regime "Communist" (as opposed to fascist, or whatever) is the creed that motivates the dictatorship. Communist ideology was about achieving equality - the working class rules- and creates a classless society. Its a seductive idealistic vision of heaven on earth. Trouble comes when you try to make it real. To actually implement communist ideals you get Stalin and the worst kinds of dictatorship.

The Texas legislature are capitalism loving anti communists (much like Hitler and Mussolini). So they are not motivated by communist ideals. So its confusing and misleading to call what they are doing "Communism".

Just call it "totalitarianism". Or "dictatorship". Or say that its "like both Communism and Fascism".

Texas is nowhere close to being a dictatorship.Santa Anna was a dictator not Abbot.



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05 Sep 2021, 10:39 pm

Don't worry, Texans are going to be punished soon just like Georgians were over those voter suppression laws. Punished in a way that wont sway the power-grabbing GOP lawmakers one bit but will hurt the average Texan including the women from Texas are pro-choice. :roll:


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05 Sep 2021, 11:55 pm

naturalplastic wrote:
The Texas legislature are capitalism loving anti communists (much like Hitler and Mussolini). So they are not motivated by communist ideals. So its confusing and misleading to call what they are doing "Communism".

Just call it "totalitarianism". Or "dictatorship". Or say that its "like both Communism and Fascism".
Well put. I support abortion access & am pro birth-control & I also strongly support privacy rights. Thus it should come as no surprise to you guys that I majorly oppose what's going on in Texas. But the OP opposing what's going on by insisting that it is communism is doing a disservice to her cause.


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