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20 Nov 2021, 5:24 am

Back in 2016 a young man called Tom Morgan appeared on the Undatables TV show https://youtu.be/e8FqG5DBM_o

He also appeared on Loose women https://youtu.be/eYDZTb_NvNs

According to someone I know who works behind the scene of the show at the time they were using Tom as an example of how people on the spectrum are not ‘undatable’. After he appeared on the TV show he got floods of messages from women wanting to date him saying things like “he’s gorgeous how is he undatable”?


Do you agree that he is not a good example of how people with Aspergers are not undatable because let’s face it most of us including myself do not look as good as Tom Morgan.



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20 Nov 2021, 8:16 am

He's a good looking guy, but I can imagine the facial ticks would put people off.

Now the thing is quirky humans have an issue with is meeting other quirky humans. Yes, I know, there's no such thing as normal, however, most people do dance the same dance. If you are the odd one out life is more difficult and it's more difficult to meet people you connect with.

Going on national TV exposes you to more people than you could ever meet and there's surely got to be someone you'll connect with out there. And the viewers get to watch someone at a safe distance and get to know their personality, well the side the producers want you to see. Most people judge on first appearances and dismiss someone else, but time can reveal good qualities you may have overlooked.

However, most of us don't get exposed to that many people. So, not a realistic example.



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20 Nov 2021, 5:03 pm

Jamesy wrote:
Back in 2016 a young man called Tom Morgan appeared on the Undatables TV show https://youtu.be/e8FqG5DBM_o

He also appeared on Loose women https://youtu.be/eYDZTb_NvNs

According to someone I know who works behind the scene of the show at the time they were using Tom as an example of how people on the spectrum are not ‘undatable’. After he appeared on the TV show he got floods of messages from women wanting to date him saying things like “he’s gorgeous how is he undatable”?


Do you agree that he is not a good example of how people with Aspergers are not undatable because let’s face it most of us including myself do not look as good as Tom Morgan.


well being gorgeous does not necessarily make a person datable.


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20 Nov 2021, 5:06 pm

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well being gorgeous does not necessarily make a person datable.


I feel called out. :mrgreen:


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21 Nov 2021, 12:07 am

I really don't think the vast vast majority of people fall into the category of undateable. It is just very very difficult for some people. Harder for someone who's so very impaired by their autism that they cannot understand the basic nuances of conversation, but even in that case I believe it is possible. That's what I've observed.



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21 Nov 2021, 12:19 am

You guys need to stop comparing yourselves and focus on yourself.

There are plenty of Aspie men who are dating/married



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22 Nov 2021, 6:41 pm

odd combo of bully and shy. but i've seen that before.



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23 Nov 2021, 4:36 am

auntblabby wrote:
odd combo of bully and shy. but i've seen that before.



Everyone goes on about how sweet his personality was on the show



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23 Nov 2021, 4:59 am

it has been my experience that many sociopaths come off initially as shy, they are just concealing themselves, is all.



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23 Nov 2021, 6:11 am

Sweetleaf wrote:
Jamesy wrote:
Back in 2016 a young man called Tom Morgan appeared on the Undatables TV show https://youtu.be/e8FqG5DBM_o

He also appeared on Loose women https://youtu.be/eYDZTb_NvNs

According to someone I know who works behind the scene of the show at the time they were using Tom as an example of how people on the spectrum are not ‘undatable’. After he appeared on the TV show he got floods of messages from women wanting to date him saying things like “he’s gorgeous how is he undatable”?


Do you agree that he is not a good example of how people with Aspergers are not undatable because let’s face it most of us including myself do not look as good as Tom Morgan.


well being gorgeous does not necessarily make a person datable.


Yes it does, big time.

But does not necessarily make him a boyfriend/husband material.



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23 Nov 2021, 5:43 pm

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You guys need to stop comparing yourselves and focus on yourself.

There are plenty of Aspie men who are dating/married


There is no reason why a good number of autistic men cannot do the same things NT men do to become attractive to women:

1. Lose weight and get fit.
2. Be well groomed with an age appropriate haircut.
3. Wear clean well fitting age appropriate clothes.
4. Educate yourself -- you do not have to have a college degree to do that.
5. Get the best job or career you can. Be gainfully employed.
6. Save money, buy few frivolous things, and stay out of debt (Note: be careful of women with significant student or other debt).
7. Lay off the porn, anime, and computer games.
8. Buy enough of a car for you to comfortably afford and no more.

Jesus told the rich young man that in order to follow Him and receive the keys of the kingdom, the young man would have to sell everything. The young man could not do it. Can you do 1-8, and do you want to do 1-8?

I did not know I had autism until age 60. That diagnosis helped me understand why I was so lousy with girls before the age of 21. But I did 1-8 as a young man, and I have not been alone for over 40 years.



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23 Nov 2021, 9:16 pm

^^^just what ARE "age-appropriate" hair and clothing? one man's "age-appropriate" is another man's lousy.



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23 Nov 2021, 9:27 pm

It just so happens that many women like men with long hair.

I believe being clean is probably one of the most important things when it comes to finding a mate.



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23 Nov 2021, 10:26 pm

or at least not being slovenly.



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24 Nov 2021, 12:08 am

rse92 wrote:
cyberdad wrote:
You guys need to stop comparing yourselves and focus on yourself.

There are plenty of Aspie men who are dating/married


There is no reason why a good number of autistic men cannot do the same things NT men do to become attractive to women:

1. Lose weight and get fit.
2. Be well groomed with an age appropriate haircut.
3. Wear clean well fitting age appropriate clothes.
4. Educate yourself -- you do not have to have a college degree to do that.
5. Get the best job or career you can. Be gainfully employed.
6. Save money, buy few frivolous things, and stay out of debt (Note: be careful of women with significant student or other debt).
7. Lay off the porn, anime, and computer games.
8. Buy enough of a car for you to comfortably afford and no more.

Jesus told the rich young man that in order to follow Him and receive the keys of the kingdom, the young man would have to sell everything. The young man could not do it. Can you do 1-8, and do you want to do 1-8?

I did not know I had autism until age 60. That diagnosis helped me understand why I was so lousy with girls before the age of 21. But I did 1-8 as a young man, and I have not been alone for over 40 years.


Not all of us have the benefit of youth on our side. Some of us squandered it and have wound up mid-20s with absolutely nothing to show for ourselves.