Why mandate when being jabbed doesn't stop transmission ?

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I still can't understand some people in some countries particularly countries where people have freedom of choice are mandating vaccines even though evidence shows being jabbed does not stop transmission entirely and yet they continue to maintain strict restrictions over people's lives and do not want to accept other peoples' choice not to be vaccinated. I've been vaccinated 3 times and had a flu jab (which I don't usually have) and I would like people to take the vaccines but I seem to think ''forcing'' it on people is just going to make them even more determined not to have it because they will not be dictated to and it maybe some of these people are very phobic of needles or have immuno-compromised conditions that stop vaccines from working on their bodies and so on and surely it goes against the Hippocratic Oath to do that.

Big Pharma needs to make big bucks.

The vaccines did not stop the transmission of the Omicron variant. It did stop most of the transmission of prior variants. Future variants?. Your guess is as good as mine.

No vaccine for any kind of disease stops transmission 100%. This is not how it works. There are mandatory vaccinations for tuberculosis in most countries and yet, people get it from time to time.

Thing is, in case of pathogens which spread via fluids, especially those which are attacking respiratory tracks making people coughing and sneezing all over the place, the more severe symptoms, the easier it is for virus to spread on surfaces and the likes. Thus, the more people get vaccinated, even if they'll get sick, they'll immune system will eradicate the virus faster and symptoms will be less severe. This in turn means less coughing and sneezing overall, less virus particles spreading everywhere.

Now, you can always transfer a virus on your skin without getting sick, for example. But it is much less likely when people around you aren't severely sick and spraying saliva everywhere. Is that clear?

no it isnt.
covid vaccine can be described as so called leaky vaccine, this means it DOES NOT stop infection or transmission, similar to flu vaccine.
as for proofs that vaccinated people are infected less often this cant be said, because they re not tested so often as unvaccinated ones. so, numbers are skewed, plus one can play games with PCR test cycles to push down the number of breaktrough infections.
Covid vaccine mitigates some serious symptoms and that may be good for elderly people, people with comorbidities like obesity, diabetes, lung and heart problems.
What I see as problematic is forcing people who arent in above mentioned risk groups to take untested experimental vaccine.
Nobody has slightest idea what could be long term problems caused by repeated vaccination by mRNA vaccine.
so scientifically, there is NO basis for blanket vaccine mandates.

covid and flu viruses cannot survive on surfaces and infect people.

Wow, so much for thinking WP would be one of the last places full of misinformation and male bovine droppings about why freedumb is much more important than the safety of other people. And I just love how the covidiots keep saying "jab", as if they're stabbing you with a huge, cartoon sized needle.

And covid and flu viruses can stay on surfaces for many hours. You can get infected by picking up a box of tissues to buy in a store that someone with covid or the flu just touched. Unless you wash or sanitize your hands or the infected did the same.

It must really suck to have OCD or germ phobia right now, as if it wasn't even before that.

I feel like I've contracted OCD germ phobia since this started.

ive got surgical mask phobia. that is the one thing that really gets under my skin, up my noze, people snap at me cuz I cant talk normaly let alone with a moron muzzle on my stupid f*****g face.

they cant understand me and it slipps off my noze, occasionally i get guff for this, an witnessed other BS on other people over masks

90 percent vaxed and cant take the f*****g things off gtfo fauci and tru dough

imo you do have germ phobia and see me as ignorant enough to kill those around me when im not. get a grip man


heavy handed social distancing and curfews can go to heck. Save it for gramma, dont go apeshit on everybody and then blame me when they kill gramma, and the learning disabled, possibly

I vaxxed up and wear a mask, and I need space and personally like social distancing, but am getting sick of this f*****g mask and the witch hunt on off label use of existing meds


If it makes you feel better, a good portion of the core posters and staff treat me like a leper, at least in part because they are coming from your gestalt.



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1) Flu vaccines do not stop spreading or getting sick with 100% of efficiency. Flu vaccine is targeting an estimated pool of variants which are likely to be the most widespread given season, but virus evolves so rapidly that new ones can surface and vaccine won't prevent from getting sick. But it will make the symptoms less severe.

2) Vaccinated people are tested less because most of the time they either do not get sick, go through infection without any symptoms at all, or have only light ones which go away in a day or two, as opposed to unvaccinated ones who develop severe symptoms. There's no need to make up any conspiracy theories, it is that simple.

3) It is widely proven that you do not need to be in higher risk group to die from COVID-19. There's no need for any sickness of other kind, your genetic makeup alone may be your doom and making you prone to fail to rapid, severe infection. Plenty of young and healthy people died this pandemic unnecessarily, simply because they were too dense to get vaccinated. Yes, less of them died than in increased risk groups, but they still have died.

4) Seriously, it is obvious that you do not have any level of education and knowledge required for understanding of the subject what Pfizer-BioNTech and Moderna vaccines even are. So I would advise you to hesitate from speaking about things you have no qualification to speak about, because all you do is spreading false information using anti-vaccination nutheads' factoids. Several things of note:

-mRNA vaccines are far from being experimental. The technology has started to be developed in early 90's and first vaccine using it was created in 1995 - for influeanza virus in mice. Since then, technology has been improved, with development of lipid nanoparticles being used as mRNA carrier. In 2013, an mRNA vaccine for rabies has underwent clinical trial, two years later, the same applied to influenza virus vaccine in humans.

-Pfizer-BioNTech and Moderna vaccines were created using already developed and understood tech which was proven to work and be safe in case of other viruses. This technology has been simply applied to a different virus and got emergency authorisation, skipping clinical trials. This doesn't mean, however, that it is experimental, I'll repeat in case you do not get it - it is made using well understood process and based around mechanism which was proven to work in case of other pathogens.

-As for untested - half truth, they were without clinical trials at the beginning, but mass vaccinations have quickly delivered enough data to make up for that. Two years have passed since pandemic started, millions of people got vaccinated all over the world, researched have been monitoring the situation and checking what is most likely the biggest "test sample" the world of science has ever seen. The results are clear - mRNA vaccines for COVID-19 do work and do not pose any increased risk of side-effects compared to more traditional ones.

-In fact, mRNA vaccine technology is SAFER as all it does is making your own cells producing antibodies to train your immune system response using a relatively short string of genetic code, as opposed to whole genetic material or even deactivated virus particles.

The fact that you wrote "Nobody has slightest idea what could be long term problems caused by repeated vaccination by mRNA vaccine" shows that you do not even have the basic understanding of what mRNA is. You are ignorant and think that you know better than people who worked, in many cases, their whole adult lives on this tech. Furthermore claiming that "there is NO basis for blanket vaccine mandates" is pure stupidity when mandatory vaccinations for other diseases have eradicated many which carried a high risk of death or disability, saving millions of lives.

And yes, I meant to insult you. I do not have respect for fools who take pride in their stupid assumptions when they obviously have little to none educational background to have even vague understanding of subject they are speaking about. I am done with this bs.