Why can't I just kill myself already?

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lostonearth35
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04 Mar 2022, 11:37 pm

The whole world has gone to hell in a hand basket and when I get older my parents will die and I will be weaker and less able to take care of myself anyway. And then I'll probably be forced to live in a home with abusive caretakers. I can't stand that thought, might as well die before I turn 50. As if the world is still going to be around by then.



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04 Mar 2022, 11:41 pm

lostonearth35 wrote:
The whole world has gone to hell in a hand basket and when I get older my parents will die and I will be weaker and less able to take care of myself anyway. And then I'll probably be forced to live in a home with abusive caretakers. I can't stand that thought, might as well die before I turn 50. As if the world is still going to be around by then.


I usually hate this saying but sometimes life really is what you make of it. If you believe this is all going to happen to you, and the world is this awful place, it probably will be...



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05 Mar 2022, 12:28 am

it does none of us any good to dwell on the negatives of life, the universal law states "that which is dwelt upon will amplify" meaning you get more of what you dwell upon. that works with a lot more alacrity on the negative side of life, i have found.



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05 Mar 2022, 1:32 am

lostonearth35 wrote:
The whole world has gone to hell in a hand basket and when I get older my parents will die and I will be weaker and less able to take care of myself anyway. And then I'll probably be forced to live in a home with abusive caretakers. I can't stand that thought, might as well die before I turn 50. As if the world is still going to be around by then.


Do you want some advice?



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05 Mar 2022, 1:34 am

rather than advice, she wants to be HEARD.



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05 Mar 2022, 3:09 am

auntblabby wrote:
rather than advice, she wants to be HEARD.


Perhaps, but do you have a problem with my asking? :scratch:



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05 Mar 2022, 3:10 am

lostonearth35 wrote:
The whole world has gone to hell in a hand basket and when I get older my parents will die and I will be weaker and less able to take care of myself anyway. And then I'll probably be forced to live in a home with abusive caretakers. I can't stand that thought, might as well die before I turn 50. As if the world is still going to be around by then.


Idk but your life is valuable and there is no need to end it. Also if you figure the world wont even be around when you are 50 why cut it short, you could live your life till then and it ends due to climate disaster or nucler war anyways...so you can keep living and that'll do you in someday.

Idk death is the inevideble, many life experiences are things you may experience and things to miss out on, so why not live as long as possilble to experiece all the things you can...it will all end someday so may as well at least get something out of it.


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05 Mar 2022, 3:21 am

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lostonearth35 wrote:
The whole world has gone to hell in a hand basket and when I get older my parents will die and I will be weaker and less able to take care of myself anyway. And then I'll probably be forced to live in a home with abusive caretakers. I can't stand that thought, might as well die before I turn 50. As if the world is still going to be around by then.


Idk but your life is valuable and there is no need to end it. Also if you figure the world wont even be around when you are 50 why cut it short, you could live your life till then and it ends due to climate disaster or nucler war anyways...so you can keep living and that'll do you in someday.

Idk death is the inevideble, many life experiences are things you may experience and things to miss out on, so why not live as long as possilble to experiece all the things you can...it will all end someday so may as well at least get something out of it.


This is what I was going to say.
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05 Mar 2022, 3:30 am

Pepe wrote:
Sweetleaf wrote:
lostonearth35 wrote:
The whole world has gone to hell in a hand basket and when I get older my parents will die and I will be weaker and less able to take care of myself anyway. And then I'll probably be forced to live in a home with abusive caretakers. I can't stand that thought, might as well die before I turn 50. As if the world is still going to be around by then.


Idk but your life is valuable and there is no need to end it. Also if you figure the world wont even be around when you are 50 why cut it short, you could live your life till then and it ends due to climate disaster or nucler war anyways...so you can keep living and that'll do you in someday.

Idk death is the inevideble, many life experiences are things you may experience and things to miss out on, so why not live as long as possilble to experiece all the things you can...it will all end someday so may as well at least get something out of it.


This is what I was going to say.
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"Cross that bridge when you come to it." ;)


But, if she feels suicidal then she doesn't want to wait to see how life turns out. And Blabby was right...people in this situation want to be heard, not advised. Advice just feels like someone correcting them, which leads to more suicidal thoughts.



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05 Mar 2022, 3:33 am

lostonearth35 wrote:
The whole world has gone to hell in a hand basket and when I get older my parents will die and I will be weaker and less able to take care of myself anyway. And then I'll probably be forced to live in a home with abusive caretakers. I can't stand that thought, might as well die before I turn 50. As if the world is still going to be around by then.


I'm not saying you should kill yourself, because I don't believe that. But, I agree the world feels worse, and more so every day. So many issues we (I) thought wouldn't be so problematic at this age. Namely global warming, which no one is doing anything about. And now everyone is focused on this real, but distracting bull**** in the Ukraine. Or COVID. Real problems, but they don't compare. It's like everything is spinning out of control and you just feel powerless.

A lot of posters here also make it worse. Many seem to enjoy the Ukrainian conflict as another excuse to vomit political opinion, self-aggrandize, and attack communism (is this the 80s???). Most of these threads just create fear rather than being constructive.

I definitely relate to fear of living in a retirement home. Not just abuse, but having to be surrounded by people...the noise, the socializing, the lack of privacy. A f*****g nightmare. It's hard to keep a sense of meaning every day with all of these pressures. I try to remember the problem isn't me, but my circumstance. But, the work of changing our situations can be very daunting.



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05 Mar 2022, 3:38 am

HighLlama wrote:
Pepe wrote:
Sweetleaf wrote:
lostonearth35 wrote:
The whole world has gone to hell in a hand basket and when I get older my parents will die and I will be weaker and less able to take care of myself anyway. And then I'll probably be forced to live in a home with abusive caretakers. I can't stand that thought, might as well die before I turn 50. As if the world is still going to be around by then.


Idk but your life is valuable and there is no need to end it. Also if you figure the world wont even be around when you are 50 why cut it short, you could live your life till then and it ends due to climate disaster or nucler war anyways...so you can keep living and that'll do you in someday.

Idk death is the inevideble, many life experiences are things you may experience and things to miss out on, so why not live as long as possilble to experiece all the things you can...it will all end someday so may as well at least get something out of it.


This is what I was going to say.
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"Cross that bridge when you come to it." ;)


But, if she feels suicidal then she doesn't want to wait to see how life turns out. And Blabby was right...people in this situation want to be heard, not advised. Advice just feels like someone correcting them, which leads to more suicidal thoughts.


I was trying to hear them, but also you have to wait and see how it turns out. I tried to kill myself when I was 15, I don't want to correct them I just don't want them to succeed at the mistake I almost made when I was a teen. Killing yourself is not worth it...


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05 Mar 2022, 3:46 am

^I don't necessarily disagree with the advice in this thread, I'm just not sure if that's what she needs now. Especially with a winky face. We may as well say, "Try suffering less :wink: "

But, lostonearth35 can speak for herself.



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05 Mar 2022, 4:02 am

HighLlama wrote:
^I don't necessarily disagree with the advice in this thread, I'm just not sure if that's what she needs now. Especially with a winky face. We may as well say, "Try suffering less :wink: "

But, lostonearth35 can speak for herself.


well they need some input to know they aren't alone, not to agree with their ideas of killing themself. Suffering is real but suicide is usually not the answer.


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05 Mar 2022, 4:04 am

HighLlama wrote:
^I don't necessarily disagree with the advice in this thread, I'm just not sure if that's what she needs now. Especially with a winky face. We may as well say, "Try suffering less :wink: "

But, lostonearth35 can speak for herself.


Sometimes people do want advice.
It is not binary, that is why I asked.



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05 Mar 2022, 4:32 am

All this said we shouldn't be fighting on what is best to say on here, we should just say what we can to try to help, and give a chance for the O.P to say more if they so choose.


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05 Mar 2022, 4:37 am

Merely contributing to this thread indicates people care.