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10 Apr 2022, 11:07 am

Man Says QAnon Told Him His Wife Was a CIA Sex Trafficker. He Killed Her.

The Michigan man entered a plea of not guilty by reason of insanity, after psychiatric evaluations concluded he wasn't fit to stand trial.

A Michigan man who says he killed his wife because a member of the QAnon conspiracy movement told him she was a CIA agent trafficking children and needed to die, won’t now stand trial for her murder.

Troy Burke, 45, admitted to killing his wife, Jessica, 29, by shooting her three times in the head in their home in Gratiot County on Jan. 27 last year. But on Tuesday, a judge allowed Burke to enter a plea of not guilty by reason of insanity, after psychiatric evaluations by both the state and independent experts concluded that he was not fit to stand trial.

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10 Apr 2022, 12:23 pm

Flip Wilson always said, as his Geraldine character "the devil made me do it!"

Q-Anon = Devil


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10 Apr 2022, 4:23 pm

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[color=black], a judge allowed Burke to enter a plea of not guilty by reason of insanity, after psychiatric evaluations by both the state and independent experts concluded that he was not fit to stand trial.[/i]


Wait...so these QAnon fools are allowed to run for political office on the GOP ticket but they are considered "psychiatric" when actually facing a court of law?

Am I missing something?
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11 Apr 2022, 8:21 am

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. . . a judge allowed Burke to enter a plea of not guilty by reason of insanity, after psychiatric evaluations by both the state and independent experts concluded that he was not fit to stand trial.
Wait . . . so these QAnon fools are allowed to run for political office on the GOP ticket but they are considered "psychiatric" when actually facing a court of law?  Am I missing something?
No, you got it right.  QAnon members can act as bat-hat crazy as they want until they actually break the law, and then they can avoid prosecution if their "insanity" pleas are accepted by judge and jury in a court of law.



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11 Apr 2022, 10:02 am

"Burke believed his tablet device was sending him signals from QAnon members". In other words he wasn't QAnon and nobody from QAnon was sending him messages.



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11 Apr 2022, 12:10 pm

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"Burke believed his tablet device was sending him signals from QAnon members". In other words he wasn't QAnon and nobody from QAnon was sending him messages.


No True Q-Anon? :lol:


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11 Apr 2022, 12:23 pm

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Flip Wilson always said, as his Geraldine character "the devil made me do it!"

Q-Anon = Devil


The Devil didn't make him do s**t. He doesn't have to. Most people can do bad all by themselves and sometimes a little push from anywhere else is all it takes. The Devil doesn't have to lift a finger anymore. Humanity falls on its own.


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11 Apr 2022, 12:28 pm

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Matrix Glitch wrote:
"Burke believed his tablet device was sending him signals from QAnon members". In other words he wasn't QAnon and nobody from QAnon was sending him messages.


No True Q-Anon? :lol:


I'm not sure what that means. What I mean is that nobody at all was sending him signals through his tablet.



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11 Apr 2022, 12:31 pm

Matrix Glitch wrote:
funeralxempire wrote:
Matrix Glitch wrote:
"Burke believed his tablet device was sending him signals from QAnon members". In other words he wasn't QAnon and nobody from QAnon was sending him messages.


No True Q-Anon? :lol:


I'm not sure what that means. What I mean is that nobody at all was sending him messages.


It seems like the No True Scotsman fallacy to suggest that suffering delusions or other mental illness symptoms somehow mean he wasn't involved with Q-Anon.

No True Q-Anon is mentally ill, mentally ill people who participate in Q-Anon aren't members because... uhh... reasons.


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11 Apr 2022, 12:39 pm

funeralxempire wrote:
Matrix Glitch wrote:
funeralxempire wrote:
Matrix Glitch wrote:
"Burke believed his tablet device was sending him signals from QAnon members". In other words he wasn't QAnon and nobody from QAnon was sending him messages.


No True Q-Anon? :lol:


I'm not sure what that means. What I mean is that nobody at all was sending him signals through his tablet.


It seems like the No True Scotsman fallacy to suggest that suffering delusions or other mental illness symptoms somehow mean he wasn't involved with Q-Anon.

No True Q-Anon is mentally ill, mentally ill people who participate in Q-Anon aren't members because... uhh... reasons.


The article didn't say anything about him being a member, so I concluded he's not.



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11 Apr 2022, 12:42 pm

Matrix Glitch wrote:
funeralxempire wrote:
Matrix Glitch wrote:
funeralxempire wrote:
Matrix Glitch wrote:
"Burke believed his tablet device was sending him signals from QAnon members". In other words he wasn't QAnon and nobody from QAnon was sending him messages.


No True Q-Anon? :lol:


I'm not sure what that means. What I mean is that nobody at all was sending him signals through his tablet.


It seems like the No True Scotsman fallacy to suggest that suffering delusions or other mental illness symptoms somehow mean he wasn't involved with Q-Anon.

No True Q-Anon is mentally ill, mentally ill people who participate in Q-Anon aren't members because... uhh... reasons.


The article didn't say anything about him being a member, so I concluded he's not.


If he's deeply immersed in the ideas they peddle to the point they're influencing his mental illness it's safe to say he's one of them. Buying into their ideas is what defines their membership. If someone embraces all the Q-Anon conspiracies how can they not qualify?


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11 Apr 2022, 12:42 pm

Matrix Glitch wrote:
funeralxempire wrote:
Matrix Glitch wrote:
funeralxempire wrote:
Matrix Glitch wrote:
"Burke believed his tablet device was sending him signals from QAnon members". In other words he wasn't QAnon and nobody from QAnon was sending him messages.
No True Q-Anon?
I'm not sure what that means. What I mean is that nobody at all was sending him signals through his tablet.
It seems like the No True Scotsman fallacy to suggest that suffering delusions or other mental illness symptoms somehow mean he wasn't involved with Q-Anon.  No True Q-Anon is mentally ill, mentally ill people who participate in Q-Anon aren't members because... uhh... reasons.
The article didn't say anything about him being a member, so I concluded he's not.
One does not have to be a card-carrying member to come under QAnon's influence.



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11 Apr 2022, 12:49 pm

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If he's deeply immersed in the ideas they peddle to the point they're influencing his mental illness it's safe to say he's one of them. Buying into their ideas is what defines their membership. If someone embraces all the Q-Anon conspiracies how can they not qualify?


It seems to me it's the classic delusion where someone thinks they're getting messages from God, demons, aliens, who/whatever. David Berkowitz thought he was getting messages to kill people from his neighbor's dog. John Nash thought he was getting secret messages/missions from the Pentagon. But he didn't have any connection to the Pentagon.



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11 Apr 2022, 12:57 pm

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One does not have to be a card-carrying member to come under QAnon's influence.


Oh I see. Folks have a thing about QAnon (which I know little about) and I'm being a turd in the punch bowl. Sorry about that.



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11 Apr 2022, 1:04 pm

Matrix Glitch wrote:
Fnord wrote:
One does not have to be a card-carrying member to come under QAnon's influence.
Oh I see. Folks have a thing about QAnon (which I know little about) and I'm being a turd in the punch bowl. Sorry about that.
I would not agree with "turd in the punch bowl" aspect, but considering all the negative activities related to QAnon and its followers, it might be beneficial to check out websites like  The Cult News Network  for stories that the Media does not deem as important as Russia's war on Ukraine or how many times HRM Elizabeth II sneezed today.



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11 Apr 2022, 1:29 pm

Matrix Glitch wrote:
funeralxempire wrote:
If he's deeply immersed in the ideas they peddle to the point they're influencing his mental illness it's safe to say he's one of them. Buying into their ideas is what defines their membership. If someone embraces all the Q-Anon conspiracies how can they not qualify?


It seems to me it's the classic delusion where someone thinks they're getting messages from God, demons, aliens, who/whatever. David Berkowitz thought he was getting messages to kill people from his neighbor's dog. John Nash thought he was getting secret messages/missions from the Pentagon. But he didn't have any connection to the Pentagon.


Q-Anon and the nutters associated with it aren't quite the same because it's a vast, intertwined shared delusion.

Imagine if there were thousands of Berkowitzes who all believed they were getting messages from Sam the dog and who regularly discussed those messages and what they might mean.

Some of those Sons of Sam might be more or less connected to reality, maybe most of them wouldn't end up acting out but a few of them would be likely to allow the shared delusions replace their connection to reality and then start acting upon them.

It's not as though this is the only case of Q-Anons acting in a criminal manner fuelled by delusions.


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