The difference between a Republican and a Democrat

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07 Aug 2007, 7:51 pm

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More like Thompson gives the man directions to the nearest wal-mart where he works illegally for 35 cents/hour

Who works illegally at Wal-Mart for 35 cents an hour?


Walmart starts at about eight fifty around here and you have to have so much proof of status it's ridiculous and a drug test to top it off. Want to see illegals working cheep look at residential constuction very much a cash business.


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08 Aug 2007, 6:08 am

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non-big chain restuarants are the biggest employers of illegals in CT.

The scam starts at the farms, there is no way the government can track production so there is a huge black market for food.
The government has no idea how much food a resturant bought or how much they had to throw out. The wholesalers are fly buy night operations, they buy a few truckloads for cash from farmers who never grew the stuff in the first place as far as the government knows and it's sold for cash to the wholesaler who sells it for cash to the restuarants, who sell it for cash to the public.

Millions of employee's working for cash while their kids are on welfare.



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08 Aug 2007, 6:24 am

I work in construction so that is what I know about I know restaurants do a lot too. In my area we have corners where the illegals hang out sometimes fifty plus waiting for contractors.

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Millions of employee's working for cash while their kids are on welfare.

I see this everyday that and working cash to avoid child support.


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08 Aug 2007, 1:49 pm

Look can we all get back to the topic "The difference between a Republican and a Democrat"???

I want a clear explanation of the differences between the Democrats and the Republicans in terms of political ideas and stuff.



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08 Aug 2007, 3:23 pm

tcorrielus wrote:
Look can we all get back to the topic "The difference between a Republican and a Democrat"???


You ask this from a bunch of aspies? :P

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I want a clear explanation of the differences between the Democrats and the Republicans in terms of political ideas and stuff.


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08 Aug 2007, 4:22 pm

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I want a clear explanation of the differences between the Democrats and the Republicans in terms of political ideas and stuff.


are you serious 8O

one party lies that the government run nanny state is the answer and the other party lies that free markets are the answer

The truth is if we didn't watch the news or hear about it at all, we wouldn't have a clue who was running things, because there is no noticable differance.

The federal reserve controls the economy, so it's really irrelavent who has the political power. If we have jobs and prices & taxes aren't going up faster than wages, life is good. If we don't have jobs and or prices & taxes are going up faster than wages, life ain't so good.



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08 Aug 2007, 4:34 pm

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I want a clear explanation of the differences between the Democrats and the Republicans in terms of political ideas and stuff.


are you serious 8O

one party lies that the government run nanny state is the answer and the other party lies that free markets are the answer

The truth is if we didn't watch the news or hear about it at all, we wouldn't have a clue who was running things, because there is no noticable differance.

The federal reserve controls the economy, so it's really irrelavent who has the political power. If we have jobs and prices & taxes aren't going up faster than wages, life is good. If we don't have jobs and or prices & taxes are going up faster than wages, life ain't so good.


Well don't forget that Clinton actually was responsible for part of our prosperity back in the 90's - he cut a huge portion of the Department of Defense to get it :lol:



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08 Aug 2007, 5:18 pm

There is essentially no difference.
They're both tied to the same fundamental
and corrupt principles.



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08 Aug 2007, 6:05 pm

Funny... I see them as polar opposites.


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08 Aug 2007, 6:26 pm

tcorrielus: Here's MY interpretation of The Difference between a Republican and Democrat.

Rudy Gulianni/Mitt Romney: Andrew Carnegie (Leftists, Lie all you want about 'em, but it's true)

Hillary Clinton/John Edwards: Chancellor Adam Sutler (V for Vendetta)

P.S.: calandale, people like you are what's corrupting the system. :roll:



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08 Aug 2007, 6:30 pm

JonnyBGoode wrote:
Funny... I see them as polar opposites.


Indeed? With communism, and feudalism somewhere in between?



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08 Aug 2007, 10:08 pm

JonnyBGoode wrote:
Funny... I see them as polar opposites.
I wouldn't consider them to be polar. They oppose each other certainly, but they are around the American center, not the center of all ideas.



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09 Aug 2007, 9:00 pm

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Well don't forget that Clinton actually was responsible for part of our prosperity back in the 90's - he cut a huge portion of the Department of Defense to get it


wasn't it al gore inventing the computer that did it ?

seriously advances in computers increased productivity a lot. Clinton just lucked out with the economy and monica.

I was working for a trucking company during the 90's that had built a large office building about 1989 because they out grew the old one and by 2002 the new office building was a ghost town. like a maze of empty cubicles because they automated the office and still tripled the size of their fleet of trucks. The paperwork for the drivers just about vanished, so they didn't have to process thousands of toll reciepts, fuel receipts and countless other things. they put computers in the trucks to send and recieve information, beat the hell out of doing it by phone, just push a few buttons and the driver has all the information. driver makes a pickup or delivery, just push a button, The speed limit was raised from 55mph. The power trucks had grew because of computer controlled engines. No more crawling up hills at 20 MPH, trip times dropped a lot. trailers where made 5 feet longer, 2 more pallets could go on as long as it was light freight.

More frieght was moved faster and cheaper than ever.

Billions of dollars of inventory where eliminated that was tying up capitol. Warehouses full of stuff where eliminated, they became distribution centers. The stuff was unloaded on onside of the building and going into trailers headed to the stores on the other side of the building. Wal-mart type places weren't unloading trucks and sticking pallets of product on the warehouse shelving, they where sticking store shipping labels on the cases as they took them off the trucks that brought stuff in by bulk. truckload of pampers or something like that never hit the warehouse shelves.

Factories shipped stuff straight off the lines. Go try and buy an appliance today, hardly anyone carry's any in stock and they aren't sitting in a warehouse, they make them within a few hours after people walk out of the store and stick them on trucks because the orders just go by computer to the plant, they aren't more than a few days old by the time they deliver them to peoples houses.

somebody in china is looking at their computer and watching how many gadgets wal-mart sold today and telling their slaves, no lunch, make more gadgets, wal-mart sell plenty gadgets today, need to get more into pipeline.in 1990 there was no way somebody in china knew what somebody bought in america even before they put their wallet back in their pocket.Now they do.

we personally don't tie up our own money stocking our houses with excess amounts of stuff

Look at any industry and similar things happened,direct deposit, ATM machines, online banking.
$9.99 online stock trading.

that jackazz clinton had nothing to do with the 90's being good. If it wasn't for the Newt revolution clintoon and the idiots democraps in congress would have crashed the economy in the 90's.
Their stupid plan of raising taxes and paying down the federal debt made for a strong dollar and cheap oil, so the moron america's built a 4,000 square foot house 50 ,miles from their jobs and bought a giant fuel hog SUV to commute with and once demand caught up with supply, we got $3.00 a gallon gas and higher electric bills because of that jackazz in the whitehouse and the morons in congress when he first got into office. Plus we got flooded with chicom crap do to the strong dollar.

don't even get me going :P



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10 Aug 2007, 5:52 am

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More like Thompson gives the man directions to the nearest wal-mart where he works illegally for 35 cents/hour which is totally cool cause that's the market price for his labor and as we all know the invisible hand of the market is all-knowing and all-powerful, and should be worshipped above all, except of course for jesus and "freedom". So the man has a job and works hard and dies of some common and totally preventable disease by the age of 40 as a result of substandard living and no health care. Meanwhile his employers get richer and richer, the gap between rich and poor widens, power becomes more and more centralized and absolute, as a result those with power become more and more corrupted by it and america degenerates into a 3rd world country.

Hillary, on the other hand, gives the man a nice fat check and some free medical insurance. The man lives out his life happily but unproductively while the american taxpayer foots the bill. Eventually people catch on, motivation to work is reduced, our GDP is no longer sufficient to support our standard of living, and america degenerates into a 3rd world country.

I <3 the 2-party system


No, the real problem is that the product of their undervalued labour is in constant high demand. You americans all want fresh Oranges, but you will not accept that one of two things must happen.

A) You must be willing to pay a price for it that will interest American workers in labouring to produce it

Or...
B) Do without.

Either way will eliminate the illegal immigration and exploitation.

It is greed and gluttony of American Society as a whole that drives prices down and wages up to the point where staples like fruit, beans and carpentry labour cannot be bought by naturalized citizens. Over the past 50 years or more, you have stated to the capitalists that you want more, for less, and of equal or better quality. They have responded with lowered costs through bulk production and shipment, advanced refrigeration and storage, and cutting labour costs.

They cut labour costs to the point where no Americans wanted to work in their fields, but the demand for the product kept coming, even growing. So they did what YOU asked. More product, more quality, and lower cost.

So its the capitalists fault? Lets see what the socialists contributed.

They raised you, your kids.. everyone you know was a product of them, through the educational system. And they taught you that you had ultimate freedom(you dont), that you can, and should, have everything you desire. That you were the greatest people, that the world stood in awe of you(it doesnt).

One side filled your (collective) ego, and the other stuffed your bellies and hands with all you asked for. And you closed your eyes and pretended that there was no price. But all things have a price.

So you line up on the left or the right, as is your inclination, and fling your mud at the other side, all the while denying that it is you, and people just like you, that have permitted this exploitation, and the left and right are just your tools.

Let me recap. They are exploited by the capitalists for YOU, because YOU demand what the socialists told you is YOUR right.



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10 Aug 2007, 9:27 am

Fuzzy gets it, there is no labor shortage, just a shortage of people willing to produce products at prices low enough that the americans will consume them at.

There is no need for McDonalds to be in business. We wouldn't starve if they priced themselves out of the market. We would pack a lunch if they paid their labor a living wage and we thought the price was too high.

A farmer said the cost of pickers added .10 cents to the retail price of a basket of strawberries, so if somebody wanted them, they would buy them even if the pickers where paid 2 or 3 times as much. Sales might fall off a little.

I used to drive a truck all over the country, couldn't tell the differance in retail prices between places where most of the labor force worked for chump change and highly union states where most labor made better money.

grocery stores
i moved from Ct to VT
stop & shop in CT. which had a union warehouse & union truckers & union store employee's had better prices than the non-union grocery stores here in VT & over in NH, add in the stores are built on cheaper land and pay lower taxes and the prices should be lower, they aren't.



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10 Aug 2007, 6:09 pm

Opps, wrong thread. Earth to Bobert, Earth to Bobe.........