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17 May 2022, 9:31 pm

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Yep, this is WP.

There are very few replies in this thread that are about the actual topic - the Quiverfull movement.


I look at the broader picture which involves the human psyche.
I have a habit of looking at situations to a deeper level.
"Psychology" is one of my main hobbies.
It is only natural for me to view things from this perspective.

We can go down the path of: "Quiverfull is evil and should be condemned" (which I agree with, btw).
Or we can dig deeper into the phenomenon.

If my posts are not appreciated, please skip them.


The thing is, though, that there are plenty of deep, philosophical issues that can be discussed about this religious movement alone that can’t be broached when one is discussing the goal some indigenous people have of keeping their genetics pure. While interesting, that’s rather different from the issues involved here. The motives are different.

Talking about relevant topics related to cults, especially fundamental Christian cults that are more closely related to the Quiverfull movement, is interesting from a psychological perspective, and it still relates to the general topic.


We will have to agree to disagree.

What I suspect might be happening is this thread being another "bash republicans" thread, as there have been in the past. I was hoping for a bit of balance.
I can't see that being a bad thing.

I would never vote for the republicans, btw.
I am simply interested in a Truthful and balanced assessment/discussion, free of hyperpartisanship.


I suspect that the issue might be that there is a lack of a sufficient knowledge base here. This is not about bashing Republicans. People who subscribe to this ideology campaign for those who are on the extreme right. Once those candidates are eliminated, they’ll settle for a normal Republican.

You can’t have a “balanced assessment” if you aren’t knowledgeable about the subject matter. This is not an insult. I’m not sufficiently knowledgeable about uniquely Australian cults to give an appropriate assessment of them, not without a fair amount of research on the topic.

Given the nature of cults, I doubt that a “balanced assessment” is generally warranted since they are intrinsically extreme ideologies.

Pepe said you haven't been around for a while. Seems like since January. How are you doing? Nice to have you back.


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17 May 2022, 10:01 pm

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Are there any non-white groups who also advocate the preservation of their ethnic genetic coding?

There are the Rastafarians, a group of people who around the slavery times in America have developed black supremacy beliefs, trying to escape to Africa which was considered their home land and they would be accepted and valued as kings there, if I recall correctly.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rastafari


I heard the name but didn't know what they were about.

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This movement, Quiverfull, sounds like one of the high entrapment cults, with very disturbing rules on top. This has to stop, they are just creating people who are going to be liabilities for life, if they do manage to escape this mess.


It is amazing how cults like this are allowed to survive for so long.
We have had similar ferals over here in Australia.



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18 May 2022, 3:38 am

Pepe wrote:
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Are there any non-white groups who also advocate the preservation of their ethnic genetic coding?

There are the Rastafarians, a group of people who around the slavery times in America have developed black supremacy beliefs, trying to escape to Africa which was considered their home land and they would be accepted and valued as kings there, if I recall correctly.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rastafari


I heard the name but didn't know what they were about.

Rexi wrote:
This movement, Quiverfull, sounds like one of the high entrapment cults, with very disturbing rules on top. This has to stop, they are just creating people who are going to be liabilities for life, if they do manage to escape this mess.


It is amazing how cults like this are allowed to survive for so long.
We have had similar ferals over here in Australia.

Allowed?here in America we are free to believe what ever religion we want.The Quiverfull people have lots of guns so a government crackdown on them would not go well.



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18 May 2022, 3:47 am

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Allowed?here in America we are free to believe what ever religion we want.The Quiverfull people have lots of guns so a government crackdown on them would not go well.
Would you say the same about some homicidal satanic cult owning plenty of guns?


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18 May 2022, 3:54 am

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Allowed?here in America we are free to believe what ever religion we want.The Quiverfull people have lots of guns so a government crackdown on them would not go well.
Would you say the same about some homicidal satanic cult owning plenty of guns?

Yes I would say the same.Every American has the right to be a Satanist or Christian or Mormon or whatever they want.Many Quiverfull people dont respect freedom of religion but I am one who does.I dont want theocracy at all.



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18 May 2022, 4:11 am

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Allowed?here in America we are free to believe what ever religion we want.The Quiverfull people have lots of guns so a government crackdown on them would not go well.
Would you say the same about some homicidal satanic cult owning plenty of guns?
Yes I would say the same.Every American has the right to be a Satanist or Christian or Mormon or whatever they want.Many Quiverfull people dont respect freedom of religion but I am one who does.I dont want theocracy at all.
Even if a part of their religion would be killing other people?


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18 May 2022, 4:19 am

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Allowed?here in America we are free to believe what ever religion we want.The Quiverfull people have lots of guns so a government crackdown on them would not go well.
Would you say the same about some homicidal satanic cult owning plenty of guns?
Yes I would say the same.Every American has the right to be a Satanist or Christian or Mormon or whatever they want.Many Quiverfull people dont respect freedom of religion but I am one who does.I dont want theocracy at all.
Even if a part of their religion would be killing other people?

Well I think religions like that should only be protected if they are not for murder.But my religion of church of Christ allows people to kill other people in a few select situations like self-defense.I think Quiverfull people who want to apply the Mosaic law today should have their kids taken away from them by CPS.



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18 May 2022, 4:24 am

And what if they're not for murder but for torture?


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18 May 2022, 5:38 am

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And what if they're not for murder but for torture?


Or ritual child abuse, like child marriage and denying children necessary medical care? We’ve had some cults that have done that.


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18 May 2022, 5:41 am

Texasmoneyman300 wrote:
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Allowed?here in America we are free to believe what ever religion we want.The Quiverfull people have lots of guns so a government crackdown on them would not go well.
Would you say the same about some homicidal satanic cult owning plenty of guns?

Yes I would say the same.Every American has the right to be a Satanist or Christian or Mormon or whatever they want.Many Quiverfull people dont respect freedom of religion but I am one who does.I dont want theocracy at all.


Hang on.
Are you saying you are part of the Quiverfull cult?



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18 May 2022, 5:43 am

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Pepe said you haven't been around for a while. Seems like since January. How are you doing? Nice to have you back.


I’m good, but I won’t be around for very long. It’s just a temporary stay.


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18 May 2022, 5:43 am

Texasmoneyman300 wrote:
magz wrote:
Texasmoneyman300 wrote:
magz wrote:
Texasmoneyman300 wrote:
Allowed?here in America we are free to believe what ever religion we want.The Quiverfull people have lots of guns so a government crackdown on them would not go well.
Would you say the same about some homicidal satanic cult owning plenty of guns?
Yes I would say the same.Every American has the right to be a Satanist or Christian or Mormon or whatever they want.Many Quiverfull people dont respect freedom of religion but I am one who does.I dont want theocracy at all.
Even if a part of their religion would be killing other people?

Well I think religions like that should only be protected if they are not for murder.But my religion of church of Christ allows people to kill other people in a few select situations like self-defense.I think Quiverfull people who want to apply the Mosaic law today should have their kids taken away from them by CPS.


Question answered. 8)



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18 May 2022, 5:44 am

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Pepe said you haven't been around for a while. Seems like since January. How are you doing? Nice to have you back.


I’m good, but I won’t be around for very long. It’s just a temporary stay.


Why did you visit? :scratch:



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18 May 2022, 5:46 am

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And what if they're not for murder but for torture?


Mind rape should be a crime also, but it isn't.



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18 May 2022, 5:47 am

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Pepe said you haven't been around for a while. Seems like since January. How are you doing? Nice to have you back.


I’m good, but I won’t be around for very long. It’s just a temporary stay.


Why did you visit? :scratch:


I was in the mood.


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18 May 2022, 6:17 am

Twilightprincess wrote:
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Rexi wrote:
Pepe said you haven't been around for a while. Seems like since January. How are you doing? Nice to have you back.


I’m good, but I won’t be around for very long. It’s just a temporary stay.


Why did you visit? :scratch:


I was in the mood.


You may return from whence you came.
Or not. ;)