War in Ukraine: both sides are wrong

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Belt_and_Road_Initiative#International_relations

Share your perception of reality with these countries.
But it might be an easier goal to convince other citizens of your country first.

Skrew "Appeal to pity".
Russia is the murderous force in this war, and that war was initiated for the express purpose of pootin gaining popularity, as it did in Crimea.

How many Autistics would engage in such bullying behaviour for narcissistic satiation?
He presented a very poor analogy.

*I* don't partake in "Cat playing with a mouse" games.

I partially understand why the Chinese government would not want to be investigated in this way.
Because by "human rights" standards, I doubt my university and my dorm would fit the definition of a concentration camp in many ways.

I hope you don't have mass graves around it

There really is.

Beijing is not a quiet and sweet place in history.
So many wars, regimes and indentured slaves appear and disappear here.

Wonder if there is any quiet and sweet place in a history... it's certainly not here.
Best I can hope for is some healthy place in current times.

I believe one of the worst periods of Chinese history might be the "Cultural Revolution." Especially in the universities and work sites.

People who did not adhere strictly to whatever party line the "cadre" believed in----were subject to interrogation, ostracization, and worse.

If we're not careful, we might repeat the evils of the Cultural Revolution. We have to stem the tide of extremism NOW!

By the way, I am someone who admires Chinese culture in many ways. I've always admired Confucianism.

The Cultural Revolution was indeed the worst period in the PRC, but it was insignificant in the history of China.


Confucianism may be a good religion, not bad compared to other religions.
But it was used to endorse increasingly totalitarian rule. This is not limited to the "regime" level.
Also, the variant of Confucianism that began in the Song Dynasty left some rather distorted cancers in later Chinese culture. Especially for women.

In some senses, it destroyed the potential of ancient Chinese technological and philosophical progress, reducing all science to human relations.

I do see your point, of course. Of course, the Cultural Revolution covered only about three years out of thousands of years of Chinese history.

I meant, more, in how Confucius himself seemed to practice it.

Anything can become corrupted over time.

Actually this only extends my autism analogy further. Part of the reason women don't talk to me is because some men rape women. But guess what: I am not one of them, and never will be. Yet due to my Asperger they assume that I am. Now, women talk to some men, just not to me. So having Asperger makes people assume I am more likely to be a rapist even thought that is not the case.

Now, I realize that the difference is that Russian soldiers do in fact rape, while I don't. But here is the thing. Some people who are disheveled are criminal minded too, just not me. Yet, due to being disheaveled myself, I share the blame of others who are being disheaveled. Similarly, not all Russian soldiers rape, just some. Yet the rest share their blame.

And the other thing is that in American military bases they rape too. I don't know all the details. I only overheard a lecture about American military bases and when I asked after lecture what that was about someone told me they rape people, but that guy himself didn't know that much detail. But in any case, if in American military bases they do rape, then here is an interesting analogy:

--- Some men rape, and they are not all disabled. Yet disabled men pay most of the price for it

--- Some military bases rape, and they are on both sides of cold war. Yet the ones on the losing side of the cold war pay the price for it.

And here is one more thing. When they criticize Russian invasion of Ukraine they sometimes make fun of Russian soldiers not being very effective, or they make claims that Putin has terminal illness. Now why would either of those things make Russia more dangerous? If anything it would make it less so. So it is "blame the disabled mindset" as in, a disabled aggressor gets looked down even more negatively than non-disabled one.

And this has an analogy too. I read on the internet that less attractive men are more likely to get accused of sexual harassment than attractive ones. Now, I personally never been accused of that. But maybe its because I subconsciously know not to approach women since I know I would get accused "if I did"?

If you know a little bit about what Japan did to China during World War II.
So here is a little knowledge point:
For those elderly people on the northeastern border of China, whether the Russian army or the Japanese army is more terrifying is a matter of debate.

I don't think the US military has ever had that kind of reputation.

Which further makes this "analogy" irrelevant.
We're not talking about individuals, I'm okay with individual Russians, especially those who want to live like normal, civilized people. We're talking about government policy and army practices. And it's the same government policies and the same army practices, now and in the past, that make people want to build a solid wall guarded by well-equipped troops between themselves and Kremlin's domain.

Agree its important to distinguish between people and their gov.

We all get on fine now with Germans despite our history

Its wrong to blame a whole ethnic race for bad leaders

I never said they are prejudiced against Russian individuals. I was just making an analogy between "pariah state" (Russia) and "pariah individual" (aspie).

Actually you were the one who inspired that analogy when you asked me "what is the most typical reason someone has no friends" -- look at the post at the top of page 9. In that question you weren't asking me why Russian individual has no friends. Instead, you were asking me why Russia -- symbolized by one person (whom you picture as a bully) -- has no friends.

In any case, notice how you asked me "what is the most typical reason" for lack of friends. So you were thinking that friendless individuals (not Russians but friendless people in general) also deserve it. At least from the way you phrased that question. And this made me naturally wonder: don't you know of all those situations when aspies have no friends and its because they are introverts/ shy/ not "cool" enough?

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Speak for yourself, dude. Everybody loves me!