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05 Jun 2022, 6:47 pm

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As polarized as American politics is, it really should be no surprise that the media covering it is just as polarized.


Agreed.
I find Amurrrian politics quite strange.


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Also, as George Carlin said, "I have no stake in the outcome." I'll stick around for the comedy.

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06 Jun 2022, 7:47 am

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The other night, I watched the president’s speech on gun control. Here it is:
No mention of repealing the second amendment. At the 2:15 mark of the video he acknowledged the rights of responsible gun owners.

But that wasn’t enough for Fox News. In the immediate response to the speech on there, there was one woman out of the 5 people that spinned it as if Biden is coming for your guns. I haven’t been able to find the video on the internet yet, but if I do I’ll post the link to it in the comments. When I heard those remarks I screamed at the TV “did you not hear him you b**ch!?!”

It was another reminder to me that all they do is blatantly fear monger and make the left look evil.


Fox News is controlled opposition. Cons the "right" into thinking they have a voice. Cons the "left" into thinking they have an enemy. Left-right two wings same bird.

Governments of the world are involved in co-ordinated genocide via vaccines, so keep the guns. Also these mass shootings involve some kind of mind control of the shooter. Often SSRIs or psychologists are involved.



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07 Jun 2022, 12:21 pm

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. . . Governments of the world are involved in co-ordinated genocide via vaccines, . . .

Any kind of middle-of-the-road source saying this?

To me, this is just boogie oogie conspiracy theory.

There are a ton of legitimate stories about corporate misconduct and/or highly questionable behavior. For example, in poorer countries big corporations like Nestlé are trying to buy up the low- or mid-quality water resources. So, the lower-income persons would get higher-quality water, but they’re sure going to pay for it. What to us in the West might be relatively cheap, but it’s not going to be cheap for them [nor will the price come down with economic downturns].

This subject is not secret, but it’s not heavily covered.

So, when I see someone diving into conspiracy theory and wasting good mental energy, I’m thinking, yeah, there’s a ton of legitimate stuff you could do a deep dive in. Or at least give me three legit sources.



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07 Jun 2022, 12:38 pm

Fox News is a propaganda machine? Say it isn't so! 8O

It's certainly not a news machine:
[NYT] Fox News Doesn’t Plan to Carry Jan. 6 Hearings Live


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07 Jun 2022, 12:39 pm

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Fox News is a propaganda machine? Say it isn't so!



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07 Jun 2022, 7:18 pm

AardvarkGoodSwimmer wrote:
flamingshorts wrote:
. . . Governments of the world are involved in co-ordinated genocide via vaccines, . . .

Any kind of middle-of-the-road source saying this?

To me, this is just boogie oogie conspiracy theory. ...


Did Morpheus give Neo any middle-of-the-road sources?
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07 Jun 2022, 7:42 pm

Agreed on the propaganda.issue.


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07 Jun 2022, 8:25 pm

flamingshorts wrote:
CubsBullsBears wrote:
The other night, I watched the president’s speech on gun control. Here it is:
No mention of repealing the second amendment. At the 2:15 mark of the video he acknowledged the rights of responsible gun owners.

But that wasn’t enough for Fox News. In the immediate response to the speech on there, there was one woman out of the 5 people that spinned it as if Biden is coming for your guns. I haven’t been able to find the video on the internet yet, but if I do I’ll post the link to it in the comments. When I heard those remarks I screamed at the TV “did you not hear him you b**ch!?!”

It was another reminder to me that all they do is blatantly fear monger and make the left look evil.


Fox News is controlled opposition. Cons the "right" into thinking they have a voice. Cons the "left" into thinking they have an enemy. Left-right two wings same bird.

Governments of the world are involved in co-ordinated genocide via vaccines, so keep the guns. Also these mass shootings involve some kind of mind control of the shooter. Often SSRIs or psychologists are involved.


I don't agree with some of what you say, but you are spot on about this.
Having been through the ritual abuse wringer, I know from first-hand experience.


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And one more thing,



Also, as George Carlin said, "I have no stake in the outcome." I'll stick around for the comedy.

"A stranger is a friend gang-stalker you haven't met yet."
Truth may be inconvenient but it is never politically incorrect...The Oracle of Truth has spoken...8)
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07 Jun 2022, 8:29 pm

AardvarkGoodSwimmer wrote:
flamingshorts wrote:
. . . Governments of the world are involved in co-ordinated genocide via vaccines, . . .

Any kind of middle-of-the-road source saying this?

To me, this is just boogie oogie conspiracy theory.

There are a ton of legitimate stories about corporate misconduct and/or highly questionable behavior. For example, in poorer countries big corporations like Nestlé are trying to buy up the low- or mid-quality water resources. So, the lower-income persons would get higher-quality water, but they’re sure going to pay for it. What to us in the West might be relatively cheap, but it’s not going to be cheap for them [nor will the price come down with economic downturns].

This subject is not secret, but it’s not heavily covered.

So, when I see someone diving into conspiracy theory and wasting good mental energy, I’m thinking, yeah, there’s a ton of legitimate stuff you could do a deep dive in. Or at least give me three legit sources.


Personal experience counts a lot in my book.
It is amazing how some people casually dismiss other people's life experiences.


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If I'm so bad, pass me by. ;)


And one more thing,



Also, as George Carlin said, "I have no stake in the outcome." I'll stick around for the comedy.

"A stranger is a friend gang-stalker you haven't met yet."
Truth may be inconvenient but it is never politically incorrect...The Oracle of Truth has spoken...8)
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07 Jun 2022, 8:34 pm

flamingshorts wrote:
AardvarkGoodSwimmer wrote:
flamingshorts wrote:
. . . Governments of the world are involved in co-ordinated genocide via vaccines, . . .

Any kind of middle-of-the-road source saying this?

To me, this is just boogie oogie conspiracy theory. ...


Did Morpheus give Neo any middle-of-the-road sources?
Belief in authority is the most dangerous superstition.
Go to the mass formation topic and listen.


The Nazis adhered to the "Fuhrerprinzip".
It didn't get them far in the Nuremberg Trials.
"I vas just followink orders."

It is fascinating how people Trust the establishment and can't see the parallel.
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The Fuhrerprinzip originates from Hitler’s planning whilst in prison. It relates to the structure of the party and the dominance of the leader. This was a policy of dedication to and obedience of the Fuhrer (leader) and as such became known as the Fuhrerprinzip.

https://schoolshistory.org.uk/topics/eu ... erprinzip/


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If I'm so bad, pass me by. ;)


And one more thing,



Also, as George Carlin said, "I have no stake in the outcome." I'll stick around for the comedy.

"A stranger is a friend gang-stalker you haven't met yet."
Truth may be inconvenient but it is never politically incorrect...The Oracle of Truth has spoken...8)
Read my lips:-I am not a fan of the orange man.-I would never vote for the Republican party given the chance.-I am interested in being objective and rational.


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07 Jun 2022, 8:36 pm

Fnord wrote:
Cornflake wrote:
Fox News is a propaganda machine? Say it isn't so!



As pointed out by some, CNN is simply another propaganda outlet in a different colour. 8)


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Don't tell me white lies. Gaslight me at your peril. Don't give me your bad attitude. Hypnosis, psychosis. Tomarto, tomayto. There are *4* lights. Honey badger.
If I'm so bad, pass me by. ;)


And one more thing,



Also, as George Carlin said, "I have no stake in the outcome." I'll stick around for the comedy.

"A stranger is a friend gang-stalker you haven't met yet."
Truth may be inconvenient but it is never politically incorrect...The Oracle of Truth has spoken...8)
Read my lips:-I am not a fan of the orange man.-I would never vote for the Republican party given the chance.-I am interested in being objective and rational.


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07 Jun 2022, 9:16 pm

CubsBullsBears wrote:
The other night, I watched the president’s speech on gun control. Here it is:
No mention of repealing the second amendment. At the 2:15 mark of the video he acknowledged the rights of responsible gun owners.

But that wasn’t enough for Fox News. In the immediate response to the speech on there, there was one woman out of the 5 people that spinned it as if Biden is coming for your guns. I haven’t been able to find the video on the internet yet, but if I do I’ll post the link to it in the comments. When I heard those remarks I screamed at the TV “did you not hear him you b**ch!?!”

It was another reminder to me that all they do is blatantly fear monger and make the left look evil.

Ok…repealing the 2nd amendment is just not going to happen. Everyone knows that. The plain, obvious reality is we will always have guns because everyone like guns. The gun-control left LOVE their guns. The difference between the left and the right is WHO should have rights to guns. The right says everyone should have guns as part of their right to defense of self and home. The left says only the people THEY say should have guns can have them. What, you think the Clintons and the Pelosis and the Bidens would be caught dead with unarmed bodyguards? THEY want to keep THEIR guns and keep you from having any guns because they know you are vulnerable. They would have you believe you don’t need guns because they are in control and won’t allow gun crime to happen. They conveniently disregard the fact gun violence happens when people are breaking the law.

The bit where you’re cussing out the woman on TV—it’s all about subtext and narrative. YOU (average voter) lack any sense to reasonably defend yourself and are incapable of responsibly owning a gun. You NEED the left to take care of you. When Biden mentions responsible gun ownership, he’s talking about something he doesn’t believe is possible…or, more accurately something he doesn’t want you to believe is possible. The only people who can be responsible gun owners are leftist pols and their handlers—federal law enforcement, primarily, and inner-city police.

Always watch the weasel words. Pols on the left talk about responsible gun owners? How exactly do we define who a responsible gun owner is? Do we require psych evals? If so, then how do we delineate what exactly makes someone too crazy to own a gun? You’re white and voted for Trump…must be a mental illness, right? Purchase denied.

And, ok, I’m speaking as someone on the conservative side, but gun rights work both ways. You’re a minority and there’s a rash of armed robberies in the next neighborhood. You do the smart thing and run out to get that Glock 9 you’ve been putting off. The guy in the store takes one look at you and says, “I need to see your birth certificate.” Nope. Gotta watch those crazy Mexicans.

What about red flag laws? Same idea. This guy has darker skin than me. RED FLAG! That guy wears a MAGA cap. RED FLAG!

It’s all amazingly simple: let people have weapons to defend themselves. People who are KNOWN to be dangerous have lost their right to self-defense. Once you prove that someone has committed murder, give them the death penalty. If someone breaks into a house at night, the owner has the right to kill him. If someone breaks into a house in the middle of the day and threatens the occupant, the occupant does what he must to protect himself with the exception that the criminal tries to escape. The basic premise is that you forfeit your life any time you threaten the life of another person. This establishes an equilibrium in which people do not wish to harm others because doing so would go against each individual’s self-interest.



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09 Jun 2022, 5:33 pm

Pepe wrote:
flamingshorts wrote:
CubsBullsBears wrote:
The other night, I watched the president’s speech on gun control. Here it is:
No mention of repealing the second amendment. At the 2:15 mark of the video he acknowledged the rights of responsible gun owners.

But that wasn’t enough for Fox News. In the immediate response to the speech on there, there was one woman out of the 5 people that spinned it as if Biden is coming for your guns. I haven’t been able to find the video on the internet yet, but if I do I’ll post the link to it in the comments. When I heard those remarks I screamed at the TV “did you not hear him you b**ch!?!”

It was another reminder to me that all they do is blatantly fear monger and make the left look evil.


Fox News is controlled opposition. Cons the "right" into thinking they have a voice. Cons the "left" into thinking they have an enemy. Left-right two wings same bird.

Governments of the world are involved in co-ordinated genocide via vaccines, so keep the guns. Also these mass shootings involve some kind of mind control of the shooter. Often SSRIs or psychologists are involved.


I don't agree with some of what you say, but you are spot on about this.
Having been through the ritual abuse wringer, I know from first-hand experience.

Pepe, you seem like an alright person, and I’m sorry this happened to you.

I think my experience probably was not near as bad, but when I was 17, my psychologist did not take my dad’s violence seriously.

I have a theory that a fair number of college students end up gravitating to the the field of psychology because they themselves have problems. They’re hoping for the double win of helping themselves and helping other people. And sometimes it just doesn’t work out that way.