How about physical contact?
But what's your end goal? If it's to have a partner then you'll need to find a happy middle ground between physical contact and romance. It's unrealistic to expect to keep a guys interests of they're not getting any feedback and it feels like "friends" for too long for potential partners.
Thanks for all your replies, especially to Where_am_I, nick007, Twilightprincess & blazingstar!
Your words give me the good feeling, I'm not alone with these problems and I can imagine better now, how I can manage situations in near future. And I have to say sorry, because I guess I post in the wrong forum, but I wasn't sure where it could fit.
I wanna explain a little bit more exactly:
I'm not looking for a romantic relationship, I've never had one. I also never had a date or any meeting, that I would called a date. I avoided all of that from the first time, because I didn't want it. I felt better with boys in a group than with girls, because my behavior is more male then female. But my body is female. I grow up and couldn't realize early enough, the social communication between men and woman who just looking for partnership (or just for something quick, you know). I'm quite naive. When I meet someone for the first time, I get to know a new person (just a person, regardless of gender). Even if I make it clear several times right from the beginning that I'm not interested. A lot of guys ignore what I say, thinking she wanna play cat and mouse, but that's not true.
There is a group of young people and I really enjoy it to talk about my specific interest with them, for example physics, programming or other scientist topics. I feel very well then with these people. But when one of the group comes closer physically after 15 minutes of talk and suddenly touch my ass, I don't feel well anymore. My amygdala sounds an alert and I don't feel safe with this stranger.
I don't know, how I can describe better these strange situations I had. I can only imagine, how it would be to have a deep connection in the mind with someone of the other gender, so that the physical contact also becomes a need without having to overcome.
Unconditional love is something very rare in these strange world, so I don't hope for it anymore. Through my two "Aspie-Dogs" I learned, what it means to love and be loved unconditionally, but with people I've never been able to experience this personally. I experienced - like most autistic people - the duty to adapt or rejection and violation.
I wanna go my way of life, doing what I like and what is for interest to me. Without the plan to find a partner, get married, get pregnant with a pile of children and so on. If somebody cross my way someday, who is similar to me, especially with the values, so that I will feel safe automatically, I will be glad to feel close in the mind (as well with the body later without pressure) to somebody else. If I never meet someone like this, I also don't care, because I'm not searching or waiting for it.
I guess my autism is very strong in this point (relationships to other people), but I can't change it. And this should be okay!
Has this been pretty effective for you? And do you do anything else to deter people in these situations? I find when I act similarly it's perceived as shyness, and seems to attract people instead of having the desired response.
I reckon this situation is more common and "normal" than most people think. One couple I knew (neither of them autistic), when they were first dating, the man just plain did not understand why she didn't fall right ino bed with him if she liked him. Some people need a lot more time than others to build up that trust. Hell, I'm your typical sweaty male lust-monster in many ways, but I'd still panic and run a mile if some strange woman started putting her hands all over me. Whether she looked good or not.
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Nic na Mara, You think things through and base your decisions on how you see value in your life. Good for you.
Unconditional love is exceedingly rare. And it doesn't come from chasing or searching. If it shows up, it appears. It's not necessary for a fulfilling life. And I think you have figured that out.
And if some man, or any person, touched me on the ass within 15 minutes of meeting me, I'd slug him one. Not really. But I would push him away and tell him NO!. Nobody has the right to touch your body anywhere unless it is okay with you.
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I think the reason for your reaction to this hypothetical woman is that it's NOT NORMAL for women get sexual with men quickly, unless the man is alpha (which 80% of men are not). So if a woman showed sexual interest in me too fast, I'd run away, rather than partake. Why? Because I'm a beta, and there could be myriads of malicious reasons she was doing that: maybe she wants to watch her boyfriend beat me up, maybe she wants to extort me with sex crime charges, who knows! Nonsexual physical contact, on the other hand, I totally enjoy; women often use it as a way of showing admiration and respect to a man, which is extremely difficult to fake.
I think that is rather typical autistic, but most peope go about achieiving it in the wrong way. First, to create this kind of "soulmate" connection, you need to avoid talking to them since the brain then cannot concentrate on building the connection. You also cannot be preoccupied with social conventions and trying to be NT. Practicing meditation might help in shutting-off all the NT adaptations.
My research on attachment (bonding) clearly shows that for autistics, bonding occurs at a distance and dating (talking) makes it stagnate and never develop to it's full potential.
Yes, a transactional relationship is of no value, but then those never develop non-verbally. Their key ingredient is that the female can exchange sex for favors or presents.
Unconditional love or a soulmate connection is never like this, but actually can both provide positive feelings (without verbal smicker) and sex in the mind, which I'm sure many autistics actually enjoy even if they don't enjoy sexual intercourse.
Has this been pretty effective for you? And do you do anything else to deter people in these situations? I find when I act similarly it's perceived as shyness, and seems to attract people instead of having the desired response.
Yes, I do find it effective.
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