kraftiekortie wrote:
As far as I know, the Teddy Boys were more "militant" types of "rockers."
They were usually young toughs who wore a certain uniform (I forgot what sort), and looked vaguely like Elvis.
Edwardian fashion, that's where 'Ted' comes from. Zoot suits seem to show up a lot. The term was coined in '53 so the fashion must have been around for at least awhile prior to that.
I think it'd be more fair to refer to Teds as the precursor to rockers, although it's probably made more complicated by the fact that revivals of each subculture kinda meant the stereotype would shift slightly.
Likewise, the history of greasers in America is hard to trace because they didn't call themselves that in the '50s, greaser was an ethnic slur primarily and it just so happened that the look was common among youth who might have that slur directed towards them. Revivals of that subculture have shifted it's associations somewhat.
Ultimately the fashion subcultures both have roots in the local motorcycle culture, so there's a degree of overlap until the fashion becomes a thing all of it's own.
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