I don't want children...

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I don't see it as a problem. All she has to do is stay single or find a partner who does not want children.

"Extinction is a kindness."

I don't mind children themselves. Them, existing and coming to an existence.

What I DO mind; the places they will very much end up existing onto; poverty, discrimination, crime, ignorance, the collective and generational trauma and complexes for all of it's entirety.

Basically whatever crap humans in general are being screwed over to begin with, THEN perpetuate it by basically passing it into their children, and their children passing it into their children...

This includes whatever curse my parents gave me and whatever curse I myself am carrying.

And people are somewhat at least getting to know the fact that not everyone is good enough to prevent themselves from passing the BS that they caught from the BS of their parents, on to their children.

To some, it takes generations to 'heal'.
But do every entire generation were ever willing to work for it?

To others? Maybe a lucky break here and there...
But does that guarantee that it won't repeat?
This isn't just a one house each issue.

While the central theme is the household (parent to child), there's also the communal (other parents, other children)...


But yeah.
I get the idea -- of loving a hypothetical person -- or what one sees as as potential 'life' so much, that because actualized 'life' is so tainted, you'd rather not want them exist in life. So no curses would be passed onto, no BS to perpetuate onto...

It may or may not be as messed up as loving someone so much, you'd rather want their lives cut short and die quickly so they'd be free.
But that's an entirely different (and completely unequal) concept that is more or less just as messed up (depending on one's priorities), only with more severe and real consequences.


I won't be surprised if this topic boomed, and the topic circles to 'reasons to conceive and have children are inherently selfish' to 'anything related to suffering and inequality', or something that ranges from 'solving overpopulation' to 'eugenics'.

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The culture I was a part of encouraged people not to have children. It was viewed as a positive thing, so I never experienced pressure. I wanted a kid and had one. If I didn’t want one, I wouldn’t have had one.

I've never noticed a pressure for women to have children.
Not for myself, my daughter, or the women I've known at school and work.
Maybe it's cultural.
Maybe it's because I view things through an ND lens.

I don't think there's a pressure for men to have children either.

I think, for some people, the idea that their brain's aren't sovereign is absolutely unacceptable.

The possibility that their thoughts might be influenced by outside factors, hormones for example, is an outright affront on their intelligence.

I've known women, my partner not least, who absolutely, definitely didn't want children. Until the day they do. But I've also know women who have never heard their biological clock ticking and don't have children.

I couldn't care less what people do, but I do think it's a mistake not to acknowledge that our thoughts are subject to influence from all sorts of factors, hormones just being one of them, and that those factors are fluid.

Think and feel whatever you want in the moment, but be open to change if it comes.

I agree that some women report feeling pressured.
I just didn't notice those pressures happening, apart from baby product marketing.

Maybe I was immune to it because I live in my own little bubble (in my head.)
I pay no heed to gender conditioning, and my parents never pushed me.

I wanted children but it always felt like it had been my own choice.

I think that people could feel a lot of pressure in certain religious communities - like those that are against birth control or those which encourage the culture of a big family.

My church was the opposite, actually. If you had a large family, you weren’t setting your sights on more important pursuits, such as preaching.

I came from a different culture, but is nonetheless religious and family centered.


I don't get pressured into getting children.

Nor am convinced about this getting children hype -- where one should have children so one doesn't live old age alone and die alone.
Like some sort of investment from where I came from, which is the norm. Or, related to my previous post -- getting out of poverty, or for the sake of playing roles.

I get prodded into getting a boyfriend. And are surprised that I never had any crush, let alone a boyfriend.

It's predictable, really. Get a boyfriend. Get married. Have kids.
I basically just nipped the bud so to speak in my own case.


Never felt pressured because I don't mask hard enough to pass for an NT.

They're only likely able to accept this from me probably because I'm not 'normal' despite being the eldest child.
They accept the very concept that I'm not like them -- therefore their rules don't apply or compare to mine. Well, I'll take it.


Or perhaps I am just seeing it through an ND lens as well.

I never felt pressure. Immune -- too asocial in my case.

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