Page 1 of 3 [ 37 posts ]  Go to page 1, 2, 3  Next

ASPartOfMe
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 25 Aug 2013
Age: 66
Gender: Male
Posts: 34,462
Location: Long Island, New York

03 Apr 2023, 7:18 am

New review to boost employment prospects of autistic people

Quote:

Sir Robert Buckland KC MP to lead new Autism Employment Review
Focus on supporting employers to recruit and retain autistic people and reap benefits of a neurodiverse workforce
Recommendations for change to be brought to Government later this year
A new review designed to boost the employment prospects of autistic people has been launched by the Government to spread opportunity, close the employment gap and grow the economy.

The Secretary of State for Work and Pensions, Mel Stride MP, has appointed Sir Robert Buckland KC MP to lead the review, which will consider how the Government can work with employers to help more autistic people realise their potential and get into work.

People with autism have particularly low employment rates – with fewer than three in 10 in work – but the Buckland Review of Autism Employment, supported by charity Autistica and the Department for Work and Pensions (DWP), is aiming to change that.

The Review will ask businesses, employment organisations, specialist support groups and autistic people to help identify the barriers to securing and retaining work and progressing with their careers.

The Minister for Disabled People, Health and Work, Tom Pursglove MP said:

We know autistic people can face barriers moving into employment and staying there. This is often down to the employers themselves not having the tools to support autistic people, or truly understanding the value of a neurodiverse workforce.

This important review will provide us with vital information to remove these barriers and help more autistic people start, stay and succeed in work by ensuring more employers provide truly inclusive places to work. I look forward to seeing the recommendations from the review.

Rt Hon Sir Robert Buckland KC MP said:

I am delighted to have been asked to lead this important Review. Our workplaces and businesses would benefit so much from the huge potential that autistic people represent.

If we close the employment gap for autistic people, it will not just mean individual fulfilment but a significant boost to employment and productivity for our country.

The Buckland Review of Autism Employment will consider issues including:

how employers identify and better support autistic staff already in their workforce;
what more could be done to prepare autistic people effectively for beginning or returning to a career;
and working practices or initiatives to reduce stigma and improve the productivity of autistic employees.
It will focus specifically on autistic people, and aim to develop solutions that:

will be acceptable to autistic people.
will be effective at improving autistic people’s outcomes.
will be feasible for employers or public services to deliver.
The Review will also look at employers who are benefitting from a neurodiverse workforce, like London manufacturer KwickScreen. The innovative company provides transparent screens to every UK hospital and played a pivotal role in the NHS’s response to the Covid pandemic.

On a recent visit to their Lewisham base, the Minister and Sir Robert discovered many of the breakthrough initiatives in the company came from the neurodiverse members of the team.

Dr James Cusack, Chief Executive of the UK autism research and campaigning charity, Autistica said:

The benefits for autistic people and society will be huge if we can give autistic people the opportunity to work and thrive in employment. That’s why as a charity we want to see a doubling of the employment rate for autistic people by 2030.

We are delighted to support the government on this vital review which will enable us to move from awareness to evidence-based action. This will help us to rethink how we approach autistic people’s access to work and perhaps drive a wider rethink around how we accommodate everyone in work, as we all think differently with unique strengths, challenges and needs.

As part of the review, many of the adjustments and initiatives that would benefit autistic people could also benefit a wider group of people who think differently, including those with other neurodevelopmental conditions such as ADHD, dyslexia and dyspraxia.

Further Information
The Buckland Review of Autism Employment is intended to complement, rather than duplicate, the Government’s national strategy for autistic children, young people and adults: 2021-26, which also recognises employment as a priority.

The review will be GB-wide and the leadership role is an unpaid position

The Buckland Review of Autism Employment will start next month, with recommendations issued to report to the Secretary of State in September 2023.

Alongside the review, autism charity Autistica are raising awareness of the barriers autistic people face with the traditional interview process.

Their Hire Different campaign, which runs for World Autism Acceptance Week from March 27, directs employers to the Autistica Employers Guide to Neurodiversity which has guidance on how to run inclusive interviews.

They are also encouraging people to get involved in their research and campaigning around employment. Learn more about the campaign at: https://www.autistica.org.uk/hire-different


_________________
Professionally Identified and joined WP August 26, 2013
DSM 5: Autism Spectrum Disorder, DSM IV: Aspergers Moderate Severity

It is Autism Acceptance Month

“My autism is not a superpower. It also isn’t some kind of god-forsaken, endless fountain of suffering inflicted on my family. It’s just part of who I am as a person”. - Sara Luterman


Kaioken
Yellow-bellied Woodpecker
Yellow-bellied Woodpecker

Joined: 13 Nov 2022
Age: 36
Gender: Male
Posts: 52
Location: England

08 Apr 2023, 6:48 am

This is concerning.

There definitely needs to be more employment opportunities for Autistic people.

But the DWP has a terrible track record for how it treats vulnerable claimants. Will vulnerable, Autistic people face pressure and bullying from DWP and Job Centres?

When you look at the track record of the DWP, it is difficult to believe that this review has good intentions. Is it simply a cost-cutting exercise?



DuckHairback
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 27 Jan 2021
Age: 44
Gender: Male
Posts: 3,241
Location: Dorset

08 Apr 2023, 6:56 am

Kaioken wrote:
This is concerning.

There definitely needs to be more employment opportunities for Autistic people.

But the DWP has a terrible track record for how it treats vulnerable claimants. Will vulnerable, Autistic people face pressure and bullying from DWP and Job Centres?

When you look at the track record of the DWP, it is difficult to believe that this review has good intentions. Is it simply a cost-cutting exercise?


It's definitely concerning. If you look at it in context, it's coming at the same time as a drive to get early retirees back into work, and a review of physical disability evaluation. It's coming at a time where our economy is stagnating and we've cut off our access to a major source of working-age immigrants (via Brexit) leaving us with a worker shortfall that runs into the hundreds of thousands.

I'd love to think that the aim here is to encourage ASD people to find rewarding places in society, and encourage employers to see the value in neurodiversity.

But I've been watching this government for 13 years and I have no faith that it's about that at all.


_________________
And they told me there'd be people there, whose love could make me whole. But I walked among them yesterday, and never saw a soul.


KitLily
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 7 Jan 2021
Age: 55
Gender: Female
Posts: 5,074
Location: England

08 Apr 2023, 7:52 am

As Duckhairback says, I have no faith in this government to help ANYONE.

I suspect this is either 'get autistic people in jobs and so off our disability claim system'. Or 'identify autistic people and marginalise/mentally torture them/make their lives so difficult that they...er...disappear*'

It could be yet another one of their 'target a marginalised group and turn people against them' campaigns, as in disabled people as a whole, trans people, refugees etc.

13 years of the Tory government have made me very suspicious of their motives.

*read 'disappear' as you wish.


_________________
That alien woman. On Earth to observe and wonder about homo sapiens.


Kaioken
Yellow-bellied Woodpecker
Yellow-bellied Woodpecker

Joined: 13 Nov 2022
Age: 36
Gender: Male
Posts: 52
Location: England

08 Apr 2023, 7:55 am

DuckHairback wrote:
Quote:

But I've been watching this government for 13 years and I have no faith that it's about that at all.


I agree.

This feels like Austerity 2.0

Austerity 1.0 was all about making the public paranoid about “benefit scroungers” and using that to justify brutal cuts to benefits.

Austerity 2.0 seems to be about making benefits cuts under the guise of “supporting Autistic people”



DuckHairback
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 27 Jan 2021
Age: 44
Gender: Male
Posts: 3,241
Location: Dorset

08 Apr 2023, 8:02 am

KitLily wrote:
I suspect this is either 'get autistic people in jobs and so off our disability claim system'. Or 'identify autistic people and marginalise/mentally torture them/make their lives so difficult that they...er...disappear*'


I think it's a two-for-one deal. As you say, it gets people off disability benefits, which is always a priority for Conservatives but it also adds to the available employee pool which we sorely need, thanks to no-one wanting to come here and work anymore post Brexit. This is going to be a big issue that businesses are going to be angry about come election time.

The test will come when we see whether these ASD people who are newly welcomed into the workforce are getting jobs that truly embrace their neurodiversity and make allowances for their needs, or whether they're just the doing low-skilled work.


_________________
And they told me there'd be people there, whose love could make me whole. But I walked among them yesterday, and never saw a soul.


KitLily
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 7 Jan 2021
Age: 55
Gender: Female
Posts: 5,074
Location: England

08 Apr 2023, 8:02 am

Kaioken wrote:
DuckHairback wrote:
Quote:

But I've been watching this government for 13 years and I have no faith that it's about that at all.


I agree.

This feels like Austerity 2.0

Austerity 1.0 was all about making the public paranoid about “benefit scroungers” and using that to justify brutal cuts to benefits.

Austerity 2.0 seems to be about making benefits cuts under the guise of “supporting Autistic people”


You make an excellent point^

'Get autistic people back in work' i.e. off benefits.


_________________
That alien woman. On Earth to observe and wonder about homo sapiens.


KitLily
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 7 Jan 2021
Age: 55
Gender: Female
Posts: 5,074
Location: England

08 Apr 2023, 8:07 am

DuckHairback wrote:
I think it's a two-for-one deal. As you say, it gets people off disability benefits, which is always a priority for Conservatives but it also adds to the available employee pool which we sorely need, thanks to no-one wanting to come here and work anymore post Brexit. This is going to be a big issue that businesses are going to be angry about come election time.

The test will come when we see whether these ASD people who are newly welcomed into the workforce are getting jobs that truly embrace their neurodiversity and make allowances for their needs, or whether they're just the doing low-skilled work.


Yes. I hadn't thought about the 'two for the price of one' deal.

I highly suspect ASD people will be left to do the low-skilled work.

I've been down that road. I have a BA Hons degree and I know I'm above average intelligence. But I never had the people skills or emotional skills or other soft skills to get the top jobs. I also had bad physical and mental health so that was another barrier.

So, I was left doing low skilled work i.e. photocopying, learning support, receptionist etc.

However now I work for myself as a freelance editor. Editing is a very, very good job for autists btw!! ! It allows us to perfect things, work with defined rules, limit time with people, work quietly alone etc...


_________________
That alien woman. On Earth to observe and wonder about homo sapiens.


Kaioken
Yellow-bellied Woodpecker
Yellow-bellied Woodpecker

Joined: 13 Nov 2022
Age: 36
Gender: Male
Posts: 52
Location: England

08 Apr 2023, 12:11 pm

KitLily wrote:

You make an excellent point^

'Get autistic people back in work' i.e. off benefits.


Thank you.

I have also read that staff will be given bonuses for pushing Universal Credit claimants into work (which is absolutely shocking, in my opinion). I think this is indicative of the real intentions of current benefit reforms.

I hadn’t made the link between the job vacancies left by Brexit and the push for Autistic people into work. This is concerning, too, because, as has been said, it could result in Autistic people being matched with inappropriate jobs.



klanka
Veteran
Veteran

Joined: 31 Mar 2022
Age: 46
Gender: Male
Posts: 1,888
Location: Cardiff, Wales

08 Apr 2023, 12:20 pm

there are jobs we can do , but often the interview process stops us working.

In the dating threads they are always talking about how getting a job helps, so it seems ok............could be wrong though



Kaioken
Yellow-bellied Woodpecker
Yellow-bellied Woodpecker

Joined: 13 Nov 2022
Age: 36
Gender: Male
Posts: 52
Location: England

08 Apr 2023, 12:43 pm

klanka wrote:
there are jobs we can do , but often the interview process stops us working.



Yes, I’ve definitely had problems in the interview stage, on multiple occasions.

I have neurotypical friends who seem to sail through interviews. But I have always struggled.



KitLily
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 7 Jan 2021
Age: 55
Gender: Female
Posts: 5,074
Location: England

08 Apr 2023, 1:07 pm

I got some REALLY useful feedback after a job interview once.

The lady said I successfully showed her that my department was very efficient and good at their job. But I didn't show her that I personally was very efficient and good at my job.

(I understood this to mean that I just needed to show off a bit and lay it on thick about how good I was at my job)

I hope that helps someone else too.


_________________
That alien woman. On Earth to observe and wonder about homo sapiens.


KitLily
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 7 Jan 2021
Age: 55
Gender: Female
Posts: 5,074
Location: England

08 Apr 2023, 1:11 pm

Kaioken wrote:
I have also read that staff will be given bonuses for pushing Universal Credit claimants into work (which is absolutely shocking, in my opinion). I think this is indicative of the real intentions of current benefit reforms.

I hadn’t made the link between the job vacancies left by Brexit and the push for Autistic people into work. This is concerning, too, because, as has been said, it could result in Autistic people being matched with inappropriate jobs.



It doesn't surprise me about the bonuses for pushing UC claimants into work. They are already starting that. Did you know about 'work coaches' being put into doctors' surgeries to 'encourage' unwell people to go back to work. I think they mean long term sick, not people with flu etc. I think they want to get people to 'manage' their illnesses by going back to work.

Yes I think lots of people will be pushed into work because of Brexit. Apparently the British people were supposed to 'step up' to fill in the gaps, but no one did, so we will be forced to fill in the gaps whether we like it or not.


_________________
That alien woman. On Earth to observe and wonder about homo sapiens.


Kaioken
Yellow-bellied Woodpecker
Yellow-bellied Woodpecker

Joined: 13 Nov 2022
Age: 36
Gender: Male
Posts: 52
Location: England

08 Apr 2023, 1:37 pm

KitLily wrote:
It doesn't surprise me about the bonuses for pushing UC claimants into work. They are already starting that. Did you know about 'work coaches' being put into doctors' surgeries to 'encourage' unwell people to go back to work. I think they mean long term sick, not people with flu etc. I think they want to get people to 'manage' their illnesses by going back to work.


Wow, no I had no idea about the work coaches in doctors’ surgeries. That is shocking, even by DWP standards. But thank you for mentioning it - I will be ready for it.

A few years ago, I was on DLA (Disability Living Allowance). After PIP (Personal Independence Payment) was introduced, I received a letter saying that I needed to apply for PIP. I thought it would be a straightforward thing. It turned out to be one of the most traumatic things I’ve been through, and I was totally unprepared.

Since e then, I’ve tried to keep up with the latest news and policies on benefits because I don’t want to feel like that again.

When it comes to these seemingly positive announcements, I would advise Autistic people to treat the DWP with a degree of scepticism.



carlos55
Veteran
Veteran

Joined: 5 Mar 2018
Gender: Male
Posts: 1,796

08 Apr 2023, 1:56 pm

Kaioken wrote:
This is concerning.

There definitely needs to be more employment opportunities for Autistic people.

But the DWP has a terrible track record for how it treats vulnerable claimants. Will vulnerable, Autistic people face pressure and bullying from DWP and Job Centres?

When you look at the track record of the DWP, it is difficult to believe that this review has good intentions. Is it simply a cost-cutting exercise?


I have had a lot of experience dealing with DWP and UK job centres.

It will absolutely mean so called hf invisible autistic people will be bullied and tricked to come off Disability welfare and into crappy miserable low paid horrible jobs with horrible bosses.

I know happened to me years ago they use every trick they can do because they are targeted to get people off benefits and of course their performance is measured on them hitting their targets (like a sales job).

One trick they do to avoid paying minimum wage (happened to me) is to pay a daily amount and pretend the hours are normal. The problem is the expected hours are never normal and when pay is divided by these (real ) hours its below the minimum wage but sadly legal.

If you quit you cant apply for benefits for 6 months so you end up stuck

Other tricks like zero hours contracts have also been introduced in recent years.

But then again what do you expect, autistic people were tricked into the Neurodiversity bait that trivialized their diagnosis and now they are expected to meet similar expectations and responsibilities as NT people.

Not really a surprise how things turned out.


_________________
"The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore all progress depends upon the unreasonable man."

- George Bernie Shaw


Kaioken
Yellow-bellied Woodpecker
Yellow-bellied Woodpecker

Joined: 13 Nov 2022
Age: 36
Gender: Male
Posts: 52
Location: England

08 Apr 2023, 2:22 pm

carlos55 wrote:
I have had a lot of experience dealing with DWP and UK job centres.

It will absolutely mean so called hf invisible autistic people will be bullied and tricked to come off Disability welfare


I belong in this category. People say I come across as “normal.” That is because I have learned to mask. However, I have many, many debilitating symptoms.

One of the new reforms the government has announced is that Job Centre work coaches will judge if people of are okay to work (rather than relying on the Work Capability Assessment). I agree with what carlos55 says about hf invisible autistic people. I believe that ill-qualified work coaches, on commission for slashing benefits, will attempt to send supposedly high functioning, invisible Autistics into work. And these work coaches will either be ignorant (because they are ill-qualified) or dismissive (because of their commission) of the very real risks of doing so