Do I complain rather than get on with it ?

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02 May 2023, 8:45 am

I seem to wonder sometimes whether or not I complain about something rather than actually doing something about it. A while ago I just saw something talking about house prices and getting on the property ladder and hearing that just re-ignited the negativity in my brain again. I began thinking that I felt like the only one while everyone else in their 20s and 30s have their own properties and that right now I'm not acting on my concerns and making an effort to work harder and earn more money to get my own place while at the same time a part of me feels like not wanting to because house prices are very high and probably still were even before the cost of living so its left me thinking what's the point ? It wasn't as cheap at buying a place of your own during the time that my parents were my age or younger.

I don't know if I complain more about other things I have mentioned in other threads such as being uninterested in doing certain things such as going to a gym while at the same time envying those that do despite having no interest in it when I can do it at home anyway. But even at home I find myself still not doing it all the time because I feel like wanting to do other things besides obsessively working out and exercising. There is a part of my brain that is telling me to try and do it more often but I still find myself not acting on it because I'm doing or wanting to do something else.



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02 May 2023, 9:12 am

Put it this way. I remember you had a thread about booking a doctor's appointment. You said that there are so many issues with the NHS at the moment (true), that there was little chance you'd get seen, and therefore there might be no point in trying to book an appointment.

Did you try to book an appointment?

If you tried to book and they couldn't give you an appointment for, say, 6 weeks, you'd still get seen, albeit later than you hoped for. If you didn't try to book an appointment, then you would never get one.

If you approach most things in your life with that attitude - listing all the potential negatives and convincing yourself that it's better not to try, then the answer to your question is probably yes.

I tend to avoid new things too, and think of all the reasons why not and the things that could go wrong. You have to try and push through it where you can if you want the opportunity on the other side, though it's definitely hard.



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02 May 2023, 9:38 am

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Put it this way. I remember you had a thread about booking a doctor's appointment. You said that there are so many issues with the NHS at the moment (true), that there was little chance you'd get seen, and therefore there might be no point in trying to book an appointment.

Did you try to book an appointment?

If you tried to book and they couldn't give you an appointment for, say, 6 weeks, you'd still get seen, albeit later than you hoped for. If you didn't try to book an appointment, then you would never get one.

If you approach most things in your life with that attitude - listing all the potential negatives and convincing yourself that it's better not to try, then the answer to your question is probably yes.

I tend to avoid new things too, and think of all the reasons why not and the things that could go wrong. You have to try and push through it where you can if you want the opportunity on the other side, though it's definitely hard.


Well no I haven't booked any appointment. People in my family have said that I probably don't need to speak to someone and don't feel that I have depression or anything like that. I still am able to do things and do hobbies and go to work. I certainly don't feel like I'm really a depressive person despite the things I write. My threads shouldn't indicate that I am a depressed person. I have good days and bad days like everyone else. I did therapy twice in the past to deal with anxiety and I think some issues like those I've talked about on here. I seem to think that in between years of therapy I just relapse and I'm worried if I do it again I'll relapse again but I also don't want to be on medication or anything like that as I don't want to be on drugs in order to deal with and live life.



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02 May 2023, 9:44 am

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I seem to think that in between years of therapy I just relapse and I'm worried if I do it again I'll relapse again but I also don't want to be on medication or anything like that as I don't want to be on drugs in order to deal with and live life.


I don't quite follow. What is the 'it' you're referring to? ("I'm worried if I do it again ")

Do you mean that you're worried if you do therapy again you'll relapse again?



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02 May 2023, 9:54 am

chris1989 wrote:
People in my family have said that I probably don't need to speak to someone and don't feel that I have depression or anything like that.


Are these people you mention trained in mental health, if not discount their opinions and decide yourself if you need to speak to someone or better still get professional advice.


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02 May 2023, 9:56 am

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People in my family have said that I probably don't need to speak to someone and don't feel that I have depression or anything like that.


Are these people you mention trained in mental health, if not discount their opinions and decide yourself if you need to speak to someone.


12/10.

Your family 'don't feel' you have depression? It's not their place to say.



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02 May 2023, 10:11 am

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I seem to think that in between years of therapy I just relapse and I'm worried if I do it again I'll relapse again but I also don't want to be on medication or anything like that as I don't want to be on drugs in order to deal with and live life.


I don't quite follow. What is the 'it' you're referring to? ("I'm worried if I do it again ")

Do you mean that you're worried if you do therapy again you'll relapse again?


Yes relapsing if I do therapy again. I wouldn't mind doing it again but what's the point if I keep relapsing ?



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02 May 2023, 10:25 am

chris1989 wrote:
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chris1989 wrote:
I seem to think that in between years of therapy I just relapse and I'm worried if I do it again I'll relapse again but I also don't want to be on medication or anything like that as I don't want to be on drugs in order to deal with and live life.


I don't quite follow. What is the 'it' you're referring to? ("I'm worried if I do it again ")

Do you mean that you're worried if you do therapy again you'll relapse again?


Yes relapsing if I do therapy again. I wouldn't mind doing it again but what's the point if I keep relapsing ?



I thought that's what you meant. In that case, if you go back to your comment that the quote is from, you'll see that you're doing exactly what you ask about in the title of this thread.

You don't want to get help with your mental health because you might not need it anyway, and it might get worse again even if it gets better, and they might end up recommending medication and you don't want to take medication.


Your therapist can't force you to go on medication, unless you're in an institution or something, which you aren't. You're autistic, which makes you prone to depression and anxiety by its very nature. These kind of mental health issues are probably going to be a recurring theme throughout your life - that doesn't mean you shouldn't bother seeking help for them (quite the opposite). Can you see that you came up with a bunch of reasons 'why not'? That's what I was talking about.



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02 May 2023, 12:22 pm

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People in my family have said that I probably don't need to speak to someone and don't feel that I have depression or anything like that.


Are these people you mention trained in mental health, if not discount their opinions and decide yourself if you need to speak to someone or better still get professional advice.


My parents are not mental health professionals but they know me and know how I feel because they have experience. They don't really need to be doctors in order to know what is wrong with me. I've felt like wanting to talk to someone but my parents feel maybe I ought to speak to someone who have more experience in dealing with those with autism/aspergers syndrome than with someone who just specialises in mental health of all people.



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02 May 2023, 12:25 pm

racheypie666 wrote:
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chris1989 wrote:
People in my family have said that I probably don't need to speak to someone and don't feel that I have depression or anything like that.


Are these people you mention trained in mental health, if not discount their opinions and decide yourself if you need to speak to someone.


12/10.

Your family 'don't feel' you have depression? It's not their place to say.


If I was really depressed I wouldn't be right now doing any hobbies, going to work, doing stuff around the house etc.



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02 May 2023, 4:29 pm

It still sounds like you have depression. And anxiety. Just because you're depressed it doesn't mean you won't be doing anything like going to work or anything. By the sound of it, you are ''getting on with it'', meaning you're stronger than you think you are. But you can still be depressed. I get depression episodes but I still somehow manage to turn up for work and do other essential things.

It's OK to come to a forum like this and get things off your chest. Maybe that helps your depression, which is why you're still managing to turn up for work and drive your car.

A wise friend of mine once told me ''do what works for you''. One of the best advice I have ever heard.


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03 May 2023, 8:32 am

I've never been diagnosed with depression and when I've said I have good days and bad days that doesn't mean I mean have episodes like someone with bipolar disorder would have, where I'd be all smiling then the next minute crying my eyes out. Surely just because we have autism/asperger's syndrome doesn't mean that all of us will get other problems such as depression in our lives.



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03 May 2023, 12:33 pm

chris1989 wrote:
I've never been diagnosed with depression and when I've said I have good days and bad days that doesn't mean I mean have episodes like someone with bipolar disorder would have, where I'd be all smiling then the next minute crying my eyes out.


People with bipolar disorder aren't like that either. The mood changes for them can take days or longer, with periods of time with normal moods between them.



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03 May 2023, 12:36 pm

I have been diagnosed with Dysthemic disorder in the past, which is now called Persistent Depressive Disorder in the DSM-5. It is a chronic, lower intensity depression. I never get to where I can't get out of bed or do anything, or stop eating, or have insomnia really bad, or some of the other symptoms of depression.

What I do get are feelings of worthlessness, guilt over some of the things I have missed out on or are missing out on, irritability, loss of pleasure in some activities-but sometimes physically exercising more because it is a form of agitation-and feelings of suicide. Not strong feelings like I am standing there with a loaded gun, but still feeling like I would be better off dead, and so would others. Feeling like my life is worthless.

Does any of that describe what you go through?



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03 May 2023, 12:43 pm

^ Yes, I was given that diagnosis.

I’m not sure if it fits so much anymore. My level of depression varies depending on my circumstances. I feel like my issues are largely situational.

Anyway, I’ve struggled with feelings of guilt and worthlessness, loss of interest in enjoyable activities, and suicidal ideation. I was having a lot of suicidal thoughts recently, but since I was able to eliminate a couple sources of major stress, that has gotten significantly better.



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03 May 2023, 2:26 pm

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^ Yes, I was given that diagnosis.

I’m not sure if it fits so much anymore. My level of depression varies depending on my circumstances. I feel like my issues are largely situational.

Anyway, I’ve struggled with feelings of guilt and worthlessness, loss of interest in enjoyable activities, and suicidal ideation. I was having a lot of suicidal thoughts recently, but since I was able to eliminate a couple sources of major stress, that has gotten significantly better.


Depression can be situational. That is one of the 4 types of depression, along with biological, psychological, and existential.