McConnell says debt limit law underfunds military

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07 Jun 2023, 3:26 pm

House and Senate Republicans are on a collision course ahead of the government funding debate over Pentagon spending levels and additional Ukraine aid.

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Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell on Wednesday blasted the military spending levels established in the new debt limit law, escalating an emerging standoff between Senate Republicans and House Speaker Kevin McCarthy ahead of the appropriations debate.

“All I can tell you at this particular point is defense is radically underfunded related to the Chinese threat. And Ukraine probably will need additional assistance,” McConnell told reporters. “So figuring out how to do this is going to be a challenge.”

McConnell, R-Ky., was responding to a question about McCarthy, R-Calif., rejecting the possibility of a supplemental aid package for Ukraine. The speaker flatly said “no” to the idea when asked about it on Monday.

“We just did our whole bill when it comes to the debt. If your first process is ‘I need a supplemental,’ you’re not paying attention,” McCarthy said. “The senators are not paying attention to how the system works. We will go through the appropriation process, and we will do the numbers that we just agreed to. And the idea that they think they’re going to go around it is not going to work.”

The division points to a larger intra-party clash over America's role in the world — traditional security hawks who favor larger military spending and aid to allies up against a hard-right wing that prioritizes cuts to government spending and has soured on the U.S. getting involved in foreign affairs, like Russia's war in Ukraine.

McConnell sits firmly in the former camp, which reflects how most Senate Republicans feel, while McCarthy is representing the wishes of ultraconservatives in the latter camp who punch above their weight inside the House GOP conference.

The new law negotiated by McCarthy and President Joe Biden establishes a defense spending level of $886 billion in fiscal year 2024, about 3% higher than current levels. McConnell and other Senate Republicans have objected to that level as too low, although the Senate minority leader still voted for the bill to avert a debt default.


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07 Jun 2023, 4:00 pm

Underfunded? The defense budget is threatening to bankrupt us. It's why we don't have money for universal healthcare, free college and real social safety nets. They get do much money that literally pallets of shrink wrapped money goes missing and nobody actually knows where substantial amounts of money goes.

And yet veterans' programs are chronically underfunded.



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09 Jun 2023, 2:01 am

one wonders, does he eat dead ukr for the big 'project'?
see he says, next year (a programmmed hillary ww3)




old bs and still the same bs

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09 Jun 2023, 5:02 am

Did he mention anything about under-funding Social Security, scientific research, or housing subsidies?


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09 Jun 2023, 6:03 am

ASPartOfMe wrote:
House and Senate Republicans are on a collision course ahead of the government funding debate over Pentagon spending levels and additional Ukraine aid.
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Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell on Wednesday blasted the military spending levels established in the new debt limit law, escalating an emerging standoff between Senate Republicans and House Speaker Kevin McCarthy ahead of the appropriations debate.

“All I can tell you at this particular point is defense is radically underfunded related to the Chinese threat. And Ukraine probably will need additional assistance,” McConnell told reporters. “So figuring out how to do this is going to be a challenge.”

McConnell, R-Ky., was responding to a question about McCarthy, R-Calif., rejecting the possibility of a supplemental aid package for Ukraine. The speaker flatly said “no” to the idea when asked about it on Monday.

“We just did our whole bill when it comes to the debt. If your first process is ‘I need a supplemental,’ you’re not paying attention,” McCarthy said. “The senators are not paying attention to how the system works. We will go through the appropriation process, and we will do the numbers that we just agreed to. And the idea that they think they’re going to go around it is not going to work.”

The division points to a larger intra-party clash over America's role in the world — traditional security hawks who favor larger military spending and aid to allies up against a hard-right wing that prioritizes cuts to government spending and has soured on the U.S. getting involved in foreign affairs, like Russia's war in Ukraine.

McConnell sits firmly in the former camp, which reflects how most Senate Republicans feel, while McCarthy is representing the wishes of ultraconservatives in the latter camp who punch above their weight inside the House GOP conference.

The new law negotiated by McCarthy and President Joe Biden establishes a defense spending level of $886 billion in fiscal year 2024, about 3% higher than current levels. McConnell and other Senate Republicans have objected to that level as too low, although the Senate minority leader still voted for the bill to avert a debt default.

I disagree with him. Personally, i think we should defund the military.



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09 Jun 2023, 7:21 am

The debt ceiling is a stupid idea that should be abolished entirely. It artificially restricts US R&D spending and by extension the entire economy.

McConnell is probably right about the military budget being too low, although in peacetime day-to-day military spending shouldn't come out of borrowing (it's fine to borrow for large capital purchases or to fund military research).

Military spending isn't the reason the US doesn't have universal healthcare. Healthcare spending is. You spend more than enough for it. (That being said, one of the big expenses for the US military is paying for health insurance for everyone, so in a sense you could "cut military spending" by replacing that with universal healthcare)

Similarly with college, you could afford free college if you university system was closer to the German system, and community college does go a long way to cutting costs, but as long as you also want something resembling the British system (high participation, fancy campuses hosting teaching and research at the same place) then you probably need graduates to be paying for it. That said, the US student loan system is spectacularly bad all the same.

Broader social security programmes - probably the strongest case. If the US halved its military spending, leaving it at the same per-capita level as Australia, that money could be spent on an extra $1,200 per person in social benefits. Assuming half the population draws none, that goes up to $2,400 per person. But the real thing that stops you from having a Scandinavian-style social democracy is that you don't have Scandinavia-style taxes. Someone earning the equivalent of $6,000 in Sweden pays a higher rate of tax than anyone pays federal income tax in the US.



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09 Jun 2023, 12:43 pm

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I certainly hope so.


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