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14 Sep 2023, 10:34 pm

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A perfectly intelligent response: I don't know. People, including governments, make odd decisions all the time.  More will come out in the coming days.  For now, we have a reasonable and a much more likely explanation than aliens.
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15 Sep 2023, 6:31 pm



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16 Sep 2023, 5:00 am

Ok so NASA have labelled Maussan a hoaxer
https://www.space.com/alien-mummies-nasa-uap-study-team

So what was David Graves (witness from the Washington Hearings on UAPs) doing at the hearing? Why is the Mexican government resurrecting a hoax? why is Maussan so confident as to present them again knowing it is very easy to debunk?

On top of this is the archaeological significance, they are supposed to be 1000 years old. Somebody is paying to keep them preserved. Even if it turns out to be man-made, what were ancient mexicans doing making replicas of greys 1000 years ago?

I know this is likely to be debunked but curious at motives of all involved.



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16 Sep 2023, 11:00 am

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Even if it turns out to be man-made, what were ancient mexicans doing making replicas of greys 1000 years ago?

Maybe they weren’t “replicas” of aliens. Maybe they were representations of gods of some sort. Maybe they were created to appease the local deities if they are 1000 years old.



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16 Sep 2023, 2:31 pm

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Even if it turns out to be man-made, what were ancient mexicans doing making replicas of greys 1000 years ago?


This presumes they are replicas of 'greys' to begin with.

It seems unlikely that a society around 1000 years ago was familiar with a fictional race invented in the 1890s, which makes it very unlikely that that society was making fan-art of said fictional race.

It's like finding a neolithic dildo and insisting it must be the Buck Rogers spaceship instead of looking for a more mundane explanation (dildo, pestle, probably not a toy rocket ship considering the society had never conceived of rocketry).


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17 Sep 2023, 3:18 am

All seems elementary yet the mummies have been doing the rounds in the public eye now 6 years and yet they are still being taken seriously. You would think once the jig was up in 2017 they would have been wrapped up and buried (pardon the intentional pun) not being paraded around being challenged to debunk?.



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17 Sep 2023, 5:18 am

Its still 1852 in Mexico. In the 1850's a New England farmer "found" the petrified body of a giant human made of stone. The local papers dubbed the astonishing "discovery" the "Cardiff Giant". And the farmer took it on tour on the road around the US making tons of cash exhibiting it to the masses. P.T. Barnum tried to buy it from him, but he refused. So P.T. Barnum hired sculptors to create his own "Cardiff Giant" which Barnum billed as the "Real Cardiff Giant". And the two giants starred in parralell competing tours of the nation...Barnum's fake giant, and the original (which was itself fake).

Those poor Mexicans are still mired in that ignorant superstition.

But thank GAWD we Americans have advanced beyond that, and no longer fall for hucksters like that.


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17 Sep 2023, 12:50 pm

cyberdad wrote:
All seems elementary yet the mummies have been doing the rounds in the public eye now 6 years and yet they are still being taken seriously. You would think once the jig was up in 2017 they would have been wrapped up and buried (pardon the intentional pun) not being paraded around being challenged to debunk?.

Irrational human behavior is not evidence.



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18 Sep 2023, 12:53 am

irrational behaviour from random humans no.....

irrational behaviour from those controlling governments...well that's a different matter entirely



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18 Sep 2023, 8:32 am

cyberdad wrote:
irrational behaviour from random humans no.....

irrational behaviour from those controlling governments...well that's a different matter entirely

“Controlling governments” behave irrationally all the time.



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19 Sep 2023, 3:17 am

TwilightPrincess wrote:
cyberdad wrote:
irrational behaviour from random humans no.....

irrational behaviour from those controlling governments...well that's a different matter entirely

“Controlling governments” behave irrationally all the time.


Which is even more reason why we need to pay attention



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20 Sep 2023, 1:39 pm

As someone of Mexican origin, I am 100% certain I'm descended from these "non-human bodies." lol.
I was right, I really am an alien!


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20 Sep 2023, 4:34 pm

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Maussan and others have presented similar claims about alleged alien remains in the past. Scientists have dismissed them as either ancient Peruvian mummies or manipulated mummies.


https://www.npr.org/2023/09/13/11992513 ... s-congress

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“With the experience that all the researchers who have worked with pre-Columbian mummies have, especially from the Nazca area, it is very clear to us that these mummies, the large ones, are pre-Columbian human beings that have been modified for commercial purposes, and the supposed ‘small mummies’ are structures that have been put together,” physical anthropologist Guido Lombardi, who has studied mummies in Peru, told the newspaper El Comercio.

Flavio Estrada, a forensic archaeologist who analyzed the mummies for the Institute of Legal Medicine and Forensic Sciences of the Public Ministry in Peru, has said that the remains of the alleged aliens “are creations made from animal and human bones held together with synthetic glue” which have, in turn been covered in a fake skin.


https://www.wired.com/story/mexico-cong ... iens-fake/


If they were categorically debunked in 2017 then why is the Mexican govt entertaining the claims and even holding a public hearing in Sept 2023? reminds of the current Pentagon/CIA/NASA hearings. All strange for phenomena that were also supposedly debunked and yet....


Probably the government being populists. Also remember that politicians aren't the brightest people. Maybe some of them want to believe.


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20 Sep 2023, 5:37 pm

The event and the alleged bodies have been thoroughly discredited in the media. I guess the public will move onto the next shiny object



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20 Sep 2023, 7:05 pm

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The event and the alleged bodies have been thoroughly discredited in the media. I guess the public will move onto the next shiny object


They were discredited by experts looking into them, the media reported on those results.

The media didn't discredit them, only spread awareness of their lack of credibility.


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20 Sep 2023, 7:06 pm

cyberdad wrote:
TwilightPrincess wrote:
cyberdad wrote:
irrational behaviour from random humans no.....

irrational behaviour from those controlling governments...well that's a different matter entirely

“Controlling governments” behave irrationally all the time.


Which is even more reason why we need to pay attention

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Most people do not have the time or energy to devote to closely following every obvious hoax that comes along. That would be a monumental waste of time.

We don’t really need to pay attention to this stuff. (Occasionally, I do because it’s fun.) If it’s true, it will be proven by experts; if not, it won’t be. What individual people think or don’t think does not matter that much although those who are quick to believe everything they see or read on the subject are probably susceptible to believing other nonsense which could involve a potentially worse outcome.



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