Most girls would rather have a house than a husband

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14 Sep 2023, 9:10 pm

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Why do you call her Miss Feminist?

Somehow that sounds mildly derogatory.

What has TP ever done or said to make her seem "Miss Feministy"?


Oh, I was only teasing.

I apologise if the comment came across as derogatory. :oops:



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14 Sep 2023, 9:12 pm

I don't know what they mean by "own a house".
Does that mean own it outright with no mortgage?

If so, it's a means of financial security.

Does it mean have a house for privacy and safety / shelter, even with a mortgage?
If so, they better be prepared to work full-time and make a good buck.

As a homeowner (with mortgages) since I was 23, I can attest it's not so fun.
It's exhausting to own a house and do all the upkeep (grass, snow, repairs).

Do they rate it better than having a small flat to yourself?



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14 Sep 2023, 9:14 pm

Do husbands outrank partners? (Boyfriends, girlfriends, cohabitation)?

Do they mean relationships in general?

What about same-sex wives?

Why?

Sorry I didn't read it all - my eyes are wonky.



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14 Sep 2023, 9:14 pm

^ Good questions, Issy.

I imagine own a house means own a house rather than renting. I think the article was listing the percentages of different wishes rather than things that were/are necessarily realistic.

For a lot of people, owning a house is not possible, or very difficult as you point out.



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14 Sep 2023, 9:18 pm

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I mostly don't get the concept of marriage. If I was still interested in dating and fell in love with someone, I'd be okay with living with them. Marriage is not for me. If a relationship ends up being abusive, it's harder to get out of if you're married.

There are downsides to a culture that makes it easy for people to give up on one another, though I suppose that could be viewed as a good thing/an upside also, for convenience as well as safety purposes.
There's not shame in ending a relationship if people in the relationship are no longer happy. I don't see it as giving up on someone. Everyone has the right to be happy and to pursue happiness as they see fit as autonomous adults. Marriage should be much easier to get out of in my opinion. I don't even think it should be a legal thing although people could still have ceremonies and religious services if they wanted them.


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14 Sep 2023, 9:20 pm

TwilightPrincess wrote:
blitzkrieg wrote:
TwilightPrincess wrote:
I mostly don't get the concept of marriage. If I was still interested in dating and fell in love with someone, I'd be okay with living with them. Marriage is not for me. If a relationship ends up being abusive, it's harder to get out of if you're married.

There are downsides to a culture that makes it easy for people to give up on one another, though I suppose that could be viewed as a good thing/an upside also, for convenience as well as safety purposes.
There's not shame in ending a relationship if people in the relationship are no longer happy. I don't see it as giving up on someone. Everyone has the right to be happy and to pursue happiness as they see fit. Marriage should be much easier to get out of in my opinion. I don't even think it should be a legal thing although people could still have ceremonies and religious services as they see fit.


Your viewpoint is valid and reasonable.

I have never been married personally, so perhaps I have a unnecessarily rosy view of marriage.



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14 Sep 2023, 9:20 pm

I'd love to own my house.

As it stands I've been paying mortgages for 30+ years and I owe more than when I started.
It's like living on a hamster wheel.
It's almost impossible to pay off a house.

I'm lucky I have one and I enjoy all the space but it's a HELL of a lot of work and money.
It's no walk in the park.
I'd sell, but rent of a one room flat would be about 300% more than my mortgage each month.

I sold a flat last year and could barely move in it, it was so small.



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14 Sep 2023, 9:21 pm

IsabellaLinton wrote:
I'd love to own my house.

As it stands I've been paying mortgages for 30+ years and I owe more than when I started.
It's like living on a hamster wheel.
It's almost impossible to pay off a house.

I'm lucky I have one and I enjoy all the space but it's a HELL of a lot of work and money.
It's no walk in the park.
I'd sell, but rent of a one room flat would be about 300% more than my mortgage each month.

I sold a flat last year and could barely move in it, it was so small.


I think one bedroom flats can be good, if you are the type who doesn't move around a lot or who doesn't have many or any visitors. Otherwise I imagine it might be a bit cramped compared to a house?



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14 Sep 2023, 9:24 pm

The flat was so small, no room was bigger than two or three footsteps.
You couldn't spread your arms out and turn.
No pets, no kids, no open windows.
It was like living in a coffin.
It had nice amenities and was a good investment but nope.

So was the article about women not wanting men, or don't they want wives either?



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14 Sep 2023, 9:38 pm

IsabellaLinton wrote:
The flat was so small, no room was bigger than two or three footsteps.
You couldn't spread your arms out and turn.
No pets, no kids, no open windows.
It was like living in a coffin.
It had nice amenities and was a good investment but nope.


That does seem a bit grim by the sounds of it.

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So was the article about women not wanting men, or don't they want wives either?


"The poll, of 2,614 girls and young women, found that 52 per cent wanted to own a house compared to 48 per cent who prioritised 'having a partner or being married'."

I think the wording of the survey actually did not specify husbands. Perhaps the husband mention was done so for a title of an article that would be perceived as reeling more people in for an author concerned about click metrics?

Or the author of the article might have assumed that most people, including women are heterosexual, and simply ignored the minorities in a kind of heteronormative way.



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14 Sep 2023, 9:39 pm

Interesting. ^

OK -- You know me, always literal.
The title of this thread said Husbands, so I thought it was man-bashing.



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14 Sep 2023, 9:41 pm

IsabellaLinton wrote:
Interesting. ^

OK -- You know me, always literal.
The title of this thread said Husbands, so I thought it was man-bashing.


I just pasted the title of the thread from the same name of the article itself.



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14 Sep 2023, 10:45 pm

IsabellaLinton wrote:
The title of this thread said Husbands, so I thought it was man-bashing.
Oh!  Allow me . . .

Why houses are better than husbands:

• A house is easier to keep clean.

• Anything in the attic is something you put there.

• Houses can be sold at a profit, or rented out as income.

• If you go away for a week, the house still belongs to you.

• The heat can be switched on or off at your convenience.

• You can change the appearance of a house without hearing it complain.

• You can invite your friends over to enjoy your house without your house going home with one of them.

• You will never come home to find your house in the arms of the house next door.


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14 Sep 2023, 10:54 pm

It all seems so pessimistic.

Is there nothing to be said for good relationships or are those a joke now?



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14 Sep 2023, 11:04 pm

IsabellaLinton wrote:
It all seems so pessimistic.
Is there nothing to be said for good relationships or are those a joke now?

The best thing to say about a good relationship is that if you are fortunate enough to find one, don't be perturbed when you find a little dull spot on it- just breathe on it, give it a quick rub, then all will be well again...
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14 Sep 2023, 11:21 pm

IsabellaLinton wrote:
It all seems so pessimistic.
It was meant to be satirical.  I left out a couple:

• Your house will not complain if your relatives spend holidays with you.

• Your house will not invite its relatives over in retaliation.

IsabellaLinton wrote:
Is there nothing to be said for good relationships or are those a joke now?
Good relationships rarely gain fame; it is the good ones gone bad that get all the publicity.


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