Sociopath Businessman Tells The Truth About Capitalism

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21 Sep 2023, 10:38 am

It's really interesting that they're drawing on a Marxist economist to explain this, ie. Michal Kalecki when Marx was supposedly shaking his head at factory workers in England not having work-life balance.

What I think needs to be deeply considered is that having a permanently unemployed section of the populace as a sort of boogeyman (you don't want to end up like them do you?) or all of the lovely brutalist art installations under highway overpasses or in stare-wells to keep the homeless out is a bit of sadism not just for the homeless to see but for anyone whose not homeless and is wondering if they aren't paid enough at work.

There's a point though where if a culture gets too mercenary it can't make sense, it gets overburdened, morally burnt out by chasing money with a gun to its head, and there simply isn't enough integrity in the system to allow it to go on because no one can afford integrity. I also brought up in a comment on this that it also means whoever wants to play culture wars in the work world has a captive audience, they just have to make sure there's an ultimatum of unemployment or unpersoning for the given belief system (whether it's seeds of a Maoist color revolution, Scientology, Heaven's Gate, anything so long as HR can run the racket).



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22 Sep 2023, 11:44 am

Yes. The guy is saying exactly the same things that the radical lady teacher of my college Sociology 101 course and her Marxian text book said...about how capitalism requires a pool of unemployed labor, etc.



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24 Sep 2023, 5:15 am

I guess Jesus was right after all about the Rich Young Ruler.I wish our society did not have to be based on greed.



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24 Sep 2023, 10:29 am

naturalplastic wrote:
Yes. The guy is saying exactly the same things that the radical lady teacher of my college Sociology 101 course and her Marxian text book said...about how capitalism requires a pool of unemployed labor, etc.

I think AI will put this in a really tenuous place if the jobs start going away. They can talk about disciplining labor of it gets 'uppity' but if they get the context wrong they risk revolution. Mark Blyth used to say it often - the Hamptons aren't a militarily defensible position.

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I guess Jesus was right after all about the Rich Young Ruler.I wish our society did not have to be based on greed.

The way it looks to me, at least in watching it play out over my life, our culture is based on genes and then secondarily since it's a perpetual contest of which genes are deemed worthy of future existence and which ones aren't, and money and status are seen as the best fitness proxies, it becomes about avarice.

I was actually watching an Aporia interview with Greg Clark who does research on the genetics of social mobility and it looks like there's a lot that's relatively predetermined about social mobility (I'd assume the bulk of it is 'black pill' stuff like looks, height, structural charisma, less rote social skills than what you look like executing your social skills, and natural talents would play a role as well - partially on walking out merit but probably more importantly being found worthy of merit in early childhood, rather than delayed, and having education piled on you - like what Malcom Gladwell talks about in Outliers).


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24 Sep 2023, 11:31 am

Have a distinct lack of appreciation for all points of veiw ,expressed in that vid . It does seem to primarily the capitalist point of veiw ..( mentally disturbed) these issues arise much earlier on I feel in child rearing years.
And basic intrinsic values .. Of which seems to have been eroded away , so much .That this vid does not even reflect on the possibility that Moral values needed primary application early on , In order to have a working system.
( Punitive systems create resentment and strife .) :roll:


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24 Sep 2023, 12:39 pm

Jakki wrote:
Have a distinct lack of appreciation for all points of veiw ,expressed in that vid . It does seem to primarily the capitalist point of veiw ..( mentally disturbed) these issues arise much earlier on I feel in child rearing years.
And basic intrinsic values .. Of which seems to have been eroded away , so much .That this vid does not even reflect on the possibility that Moral values needed primary application early on , In order to have a working system.
( Punitive systems create resentment and strife .) :roll:

Overall it's mostly people doing what they 'have to do' not what they 'want to do' (although in some sad cases it's both). I say 'have to' because of the international power competition where if your country isn't on top or a deeply needed ally of whose on top in a safe part of the global neighborhood then they're both poorer and in more danger from other bordering countries.

The Azerbaijan and Armenia thing right now is a good example. Whereas Ukraine has all kinds of NATO backup Armenia had tried to cozy up to Russia for protection, Russia's fighting for it's life in Ukraine, thus Azerbaijan (an oil and gas exporter) is taking whatever territory it wants right now - including a region that's thought of as the original land of the Armenian people, because in that context 'The strong do what they can and the weak suffer what they must'.


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