Abortion rights.

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What the f*ck overturn roe vs. wade, that did something to me....I will never be who I was before, that's all I can say I am way more angry and wanting to harm people who made it that way than I ever have been before, Idk I am pissed off about it....not actively thinking of harming anyone but, apperently some states think it is ok to harm women by not allowing them abortions when they need them unless it is one of their own where apparently they are fine with sneaking abortion pills into their girlfriends drink but a teenager should have no right to abort a pregnancy because they were irresponsible(no mention of the guy being irresponsible either) but idk if you think someone is so irresponsible for getting pregnant, why on earth would you think making them have a child is a good idea? idk sane peopel know why abortion needs to be legal and safe, insane people don't. Unfortunately seems like insane people are infiltrating the law an awful lot these days.

People who are against abortion don't care about the people it affects, including the fetuses they call "unborn". It's just a political football for them.

Well yeah I have read enough stories of women who wanted a baby and things went wrong and they were still forced to give birth to a stillbirth when an earlier abortion would have been the better choice. It gets worse too if a woman wants a baby and has to get a later term abortion due to health complications is she doesn't get the abortion on time it could ruin her uterus so she can never have children after that....like these abortion bans are making it so women who wan't babies can't have them cause they can't get proper care for miscarriages or fetuses that aren't developing right and doctors have to wait too late to treat them to were it damages their ability to try again for children.

But also some of us simply do not want children or to be pregnant period, why do some pro forced birth people say they are ok with exceptions for rape or danger to the mother(not that they follow through) but it is wrong to have an abortion because you got pregnant accidently, like I am a childfree person if I got pregnant even through willing sex I should still have the right to get an abortion if I get pregnant even if I was not raped and am not having complications, because it's my body the uterus is part of my body and I am the one who gets to decide If I want something that could become someone growing in it or not since it is part of my body.

If people are still pushing anti abortion policies after hearing from mothers who have suffered horrifically from abortion bans then they are willfully ignorant or wilfully cruel. and also why do they never say why they might consider abortion for rape or risk to the motheres life but against it for accidental pregnancy like what exactly is the hang up about accidental pregnancy and isn't it better if people who cannot be parents get an abortion than go through nine months to give birth to a child to just be sent into the adoptoin system where they usually do not get a good life. How is that better than getting an abortion before there is a child to speak of? According to them I suppose it is better to have a kid and abandon them rather than not having kids at all.

I completely agree with you. Unfortunately the anti-abortion crowd just don't care. They don't care about women, children, fetuses, or any humans, or anything that is good and decent.

I second everything you said in this thread. Even when you are "responsible" no contraception method is 100% full proof and most of them put all responsibility on women's shoulders (the most efficient methods can also affect women's health).

https://www.acog.org/womens-health/info ... ol-methods

Stopping people having abortions is essentially anti individual liberty, on a personal level.

On a societal level, Western Europeans & North Americans are going to have a population crisis since babies aren't being replaced at a sufficient rate for a stable population size, or population growth.

Forcing women to have babies they don't want might slow that trend down.

But I don't think that is why abortions are frowned upon or legislated against by US Republicans. It is more of a political thing to the end of controlling women's bodies.

50 years ago Roe vs Wade was passed because the Supreme Court ruled that the fourteenth amendment s provides a right to privacy.

Now the party that claims they want to keep the government was interfering in your business is working hard to overturn a constitutional right to privacy.

The party that pretends they want to reduce government interference in people's lives wants to increase governemnt in people's lives. They are not the party of freedom. They are the party of draconian laws.

Ultimately, banning abortion does not stop abortion. I'd much rather people have access to the care and resources they need out in the open than people resorting to riskier methods.

Who am I to dictate when someone else should or should not get an abortion?

Hopefully, angry enough to get politically active?

I would suggest getting involved in voter registration drives in neighborhoods that lean Democratic. Colorado is likely to be a key swing state in the 2024 Congressional elections, so your actions just might make a huge difference.

I notice that the conservatives who say "if you outlaw guns only outlaws will have guns" don't say "if you outlaw abortions only outlaws will perform abortions".

This is a good comparison and is indicative of the cognitive dissonance of many US conservatives.

If that crap sticks long term in the USA then I can see a future where Canada and/or Mexico add abortions to their list of medical tourism services. Ditto for online pharmacies selling plan B pills.

Apparently Oklahoma is being sued after a woman with a molar pregnancy was not allowed to abort. They made her drive to another state.

I legit cannot believe this. How is that not against the oath doctors take??

..because the medical system in the USA is ruled by money, lawyers, insurers etc telling doctors what they can and can’t do based on the risks of people getting sued.

If anything abortion bans may increase the problem, since it makes it hard for women who want to have a baby to get an abortion if complications happen later, which could potentially cause their death or just ruin their uterus, so they won't be able to try again. Also, a lot more women who want children may be afraid of getting pregnant because they're worried, they won't get proper care if things go wrong.

Abortion bans in Poland do not seem to have helped with their declining birth rate for instance.

All the recently outlawed abortions used to be performed at a rate of about 1 000/year.
Life births in Poland currently vary between 300 000 and 400 000 a year.
If all these abortions weren't performed, we would have about 0.3% more births, mostly severily disabled, some stillborn.

That's the numbers. There was never any chance to measurably increase birth rate by this change in the law.

However, after 2020 (when the law was changed) we're observing a sharp decline in births. I think it's not only about availability of abortions when things go wrong, it's the general shape of healthcare and education. To decide to be a mother, you look at these factors and they are much worse now than a couple of years ago.