blitzkrieg wrote:
I hate anything with a touch screen and I require a mouse & keyboard to not want to be frustrated.
Same here. I have bad fine motor-skills & bad vision. I also dislike android & apple OS partly cuz of all the spy & bloatware I cant get rid of. I have lots more control over Windows than I'm allowed with either mobile OS. A mobile OS would need to be rooted & some devices (like my current phone LG V40) can be difficult to root for lots of people who work in IT so it's impossible for a layman like me (thou I tried researching a bit & tried various approaches). I also do lots of file-sharing which would be problematic on mobile devices. However I do use my phonie a lot for basic net things because It's more convenient since I can use it anywhere instead of needing to be in my bedroom. I'm typing this reply on it right now sitting in the living-room watching Adult Swim

I do really wish I could get a big cellphone that had a physical keypad & a Windows OS instead of being forced to decide between Apple OS with no keypad & the antiApple that became so anti it completely sold out by becoming extremely similar to Apple
Talking about the average user needs, my girlfriend & her family use their phones for almost all net things except for playing Xbox & Playstation games.