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23 Nov 2023, 2:56 pm

I have brought up the issue of physical media versus streaming before, but everyone keeps talking about how, with physical media, you own something forever. But while it's true that physical media gives you a sense of ownership, it comes with its own drawbacks, which I think are just as important as studios taking items away on streaming services.

First of all, there's the cost to actually buy the Blu-Ray, DVD, etc. Streaming something may be about $10 to (perish the thought) $20 a month, but physical media can cost upwards of $25. Even more if it's out of print. I for one am still looking for the complete set of "Pee-wee's Playhouse" on Blu-Ray for not too bad a price, but it's usually $100 or more! How can physical media be cheaper than streaming if it costs so much?

Then there is the issue of Internet connection. Again, while physical media is apparently almost entirely independent of Internet connections and can operate when the connection goes out, how does that even work? How is it that physical media can ignore the issues of Internet? Also, DVD and Blu-Ray players, like all electronic devices, require electricity to run, meaning you are still beholden to the power company, as it's included in your electric bill. And if the power ever goes out (i.e., a blackout), then you can't play your DVD/Blu-Ray at all. Watch this clip from "Sesame Street" to see my point:


Finally, there's the issue of supposed permanence. A physical copy of something, like on streaming, is only yours until it isn't. This means they can be taken away from you. I remember one time many years ago, when we were still using VHS tapes, my family and I went out for a while, and when we came back home, someone got into our home and took away many items from us, including my Super Nintendo and all the games that came with it, including Super Mario World. And I'm not the only one; this has also happened to quite a few other people, as this link shows: https://www.world-of-nintendo.com/fun/worst_nintendo_experiences/get_robbed.shtml. Granted, I was using video games as an example, but it too can be both streaming and physical media. And that's not to mention the degrading of physical media over time, which is the equivalent of a VHS tape being "eaten" by the VCR it's put into.

Those are just some of the primary examples of how physical media has drawbacks just like streaming.



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23 Nov 2023, 3:59 pm

mharrington85 wrote:
Then there is the issue of Internet connection. Again, while physical media is apparently almost entirely independent of Internet connections and can operate when the connection goes out, how does that even work? How is it that physical media can ignore the issues of Internet?


Physical media, like film, a Betamax cassette or a DVD directly stores the media content in question. It's already downloaded onto that tape or disk, meaning there's no need to get the data via any connection to an external source.

The internet is completely irrelevant when you have the data available locally because no additional data is required, it's all on the tape or disk already.


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23 Nov 2023, 4:32 pm

funeralxempire wrote:
mharrington85 wrote:
Then there is the issue of Internet connection. Again, while physical media is apparently almost entirely independent of Internet connections and can operate when the connection goes out, how does that even work? How is it that physical media can ignore the issues of Internet?


Physical media, like film, a Betamax cassette or a DVD directly stores the media content in question. It's already downloaded onto that tape or disk, meaning there's no need to get the data via any connection to an external source.

The internet is completely irrelevant when you have the data available locally because no additional data is required, it's all on the tape or disk already.


Exactly this.

If you buy DVD's or Blu-ray discs second hand on places like eBay, they are a lot cheaper than retail prices usually. I personally prefer having my favourite media on disc.

I remember in the UK when they took Pulp Fiction off of Netflix - and that can happen to anything that is available for streaming. It is like an ever changing catalogue of video media.



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24 Nov 2023, 1:24 pm

I have a 1 Terabyte 2.5" hard drive which cost me £15 secondhand. It's in excellent condition with no bad sectors. It has almost 700 films on it (mixture of downloads and ripped titles) and is still nowhere near full. I have a backup of it on a similar hdd. This seems pretty impressive to me from a technological angle by any standards!


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25 Nov 2023, 1:21 pm

Also, there's the cost to actually buy the Blu-Ray, DVD, etc. Streaming something may be about, say, $10 to $20 a month, but physical media can cost upwards of, say, $25. Even more if it's out of print. I for one am still looking for the complete set of "Pee-wee's Playhouse" on Blu-Ray for not too bad a price, but it's usually $100 or more! The fact that's been out of print for ten years doesn't help. How can physical media be cheaper than streaming if it costs so much?



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25 Nov 2023, 1:35 pm

mharrington85 wrote:
How can physical media be cheaper than streaming if it costs so much?


Cheaper for who? Streaming is probably cheaper than physical media considering there's no physical merchandise to transport.

I'd anticipate physical media is only cheaper than streaming under some conditions, like if it's a popular media franchise with lots of physical copies sold.


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07 Dec 2023, 7:20 pm

funeralxempire wrote:
mharrington85 wrote:
How can physical media be cheaper than streaming if it costs so much?


Cheaper for who? Streaming is probably cheaper than physical media considering there's no physical merchandise to transport.

I'd anticipate physical media is only cheaper than streaming under some conditions, like if it's a popular media franchise with lots of physical copies sold.

Streaming probably isn't cheaper unless you have a massive appetite for things to watch and the time to do it. $40 can often buy you a couple box sets of TV shows new during sales, I think I spent something like that for 100 hours worth of TV shows. I've started buying at the local thrift shop and eBay and the cost of a DVD is pretty low.

I'll then rip the discs to my computer and stream it to the TV and my cell when I need that. Even with the NAS set up I've got, it'll still wind up saving me money in a few years. I've largely stopped buying more media as I haven't got the time to watch what I've got.

If you really don't want to watch it again, you can always sell it second hand anyways.



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07 Dec 2023, 7:25 pm

MatchboxVagabond wrote:
funeralxempire wrote:
mharrington85 wrote:
How can physical media be cheaper than streaming if it costs so much?


Cheaper for who? Streaming is probably cheaper than physical media considering there's no physical merchandise to transport.

I'd anticipate physical media is only cheaper than streaming under some conditions, like if it's a popular media franchise with lots of physical copies sold.

Streaming probably isn't cheaper unless you have a massive appetite for things to watch and the time to do it. $40 can often buy you a couple box sets of TV shows new during sales, I think I spent something like that for 100 hours worth of TV shows. I've started buying at the local thrift shop and eBay and the cost of a DVD is pretty low.

I'll then rip the discs to my computer and stream it to the TV and my cell when I need that. Even with the NAS set up I've got, it'll still wind up saving me money in a few years. I've largely stopped buying more media as I haven't got the time to watch what I've got.

If you really don't want to watch it again, you can always sell it second hand anyways.


Like I said before cheaper for who?

For the content distributor, streaming is cheaper.

For the customer, it's much less clear-cut.


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