dishonest capitalist culture is inherently abelist

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Attempt at a theory. Feel free to critique or add!

In order to meet most of your needs in today's world you need money.
Money is universally obtained by convincing others to give you money in small negotiations.
You can either do it honestly by doing hard work and solving someones problem,
or you can trick the other person, exploiting their psychological vulnerabilities to charm, distract, bribe, intimidate, overwhelm
your way into getting the other person to make the transfer.

Unfortunately in a world where leaders are unaccountable faceless short-term thinkers, and people are inherently vulnerable, short term trickery is a faster and easier way to wealth. Once you have wealth it becomes even easier to not only make wealth but also make laws enforced by poor ill-educated violent people to help you make even more.

In such an environment one has to be good at fine-grained fast-paced social-psychology, compartmentalizing trust for some things but not others, compartmentalizing information for some people, scenarios, but not others.

This is a nightmare for autistics (it's a nightmare for everyone really...), who excel in long-term hard tasks that require determination, deep, abstract thinking, repeatability and do not have the innate psychological toolkit of the NT because they are different.
To make matters worse, unlike a guy in a wheelchair, most can mask, so they do not look as if they need any aid.

What is needed is either :
- a "social wheelchair" to increase autistic awareness, mapping high frequency social interaction into a medium that is understandeable to the NT
- a shift in cultural environment away from dopamine-fueled gambling culture, away from the dishonest grifting, wage theft, to the honest investment in socially constructive behaviour.

Thoughts on teams: people always have spiky profiles, skills and strengths in a range of areas. Why not collaborate with people who are good at social stuff.

In my experience this hasn't worked. It should serve as an indicator that many autistics end up being abused by their own families - people who are most likely to have their interests at heart. I can think of a few reasons why.
- It takes a lot of work to understand the nature of autism.
- Culture emphasizes being a "boss", dominating and using others is seen as cool and even a sign of empowerment in mainstream feminist media. This tends to create a marginalizing dynamic unless teammates are highly enlightened.
- NTs enjoy playing tricks and bullying people (bit divisive but it's true).

People generally exchange their time and labour for money, and sometimes the labour that they do requires various skills.

I get the impression that you feel that autistic folk are disadvantaged by capitalism and its culture and that the odds are stacked against autistic folk in the workplace, whether due to discrimination or due to a lack of access/support/barriers that are put up by NT's unnecessarily.

I would agree with this assessment, though I can't see anything changing any time soon.

Like it or not we live in a culture that worships money. I feel it is up to each individual to practice the "golden rule" even if it is not reciprocated. If someone is a billionaire they have more money than they could spend in a 100 lifetimes. It should be viewed as a sickness in the same category as alcoholism, etc. instead of applauded and worshiped.

> Like it or not we live in a culture that worships money

The problem for me is that it is pretty hard to "opt-out".
If you start to do things because you care about them, you are seen as less worthy by the corporate sphere,
so you are paid less, which means you own less, people start using you to pay their loans (eg all the renter people who own like 50 houses),
if you ask for help from anyone it is seen as them doing you a favour and they use it against you, anything you need like housing or
food is used as a way to prey on you, and if you end up broke it's your fault for not caring about the career ladder.

If you try start business you still have to answer to the banks or the investors to instill the same
type of BS onto your subordinates. (Broadly speaking, there are some calm corners..)

^Yes, you really found the unreasonable part of your life, so do you have any ideas to change it?

Sure, working on some things.

It's a pretty hard fight because a lot of it goes contrary to the direction of the world right now, which seems to become increasingly authoritarian, violent and right-wing, and these messages are all around us constantly gaslighting us. Also, politics is definitely not my strong point, too vague.

What about you?

We are a small minority so any system will be designed for NT’s and harm us in different ways.

Yes.

I think the dishonesty is in the claim how meritocratic it is.

The achievements and outcomes are more likely based on where you came from and how your upbringing goes around the matters of money -- how well connected this person is, how persuasive and how money smart this person will be because of how business savvy people around you were.

Not how hard the individual makes out of it.
Anyone can work hard. Anyone can work harder, study harder -- and still nothing.
Be NT and be abled bodied; they still can stay poor and struggling. Ableism is just the most visible bits of the issue.

Just like no matter how good your arts are, it's nothing without attention of any audience, the luck to go viral and nothing without some connected person who would advertise it.

Anyone who claimed that it is meritocratic is an outlier -- an exception, not the rule.
There are more of those who don't make it than those who do.

The claims of EQ; communication, persuasion, relationships management...

Of course, it's an autistics' nightmare and that's just the basics of winning attention and perceived good/safety when it came to turning anything into money.
Let alone the details of workplaces, how complicated paperwork can be, and so forth, and anything related to a person's functioning levels, energy levels, sensory profiles, cognitive profiles...

Unless this person is lucky enough to have someone else play the stupid games for them -- a literal secretary/rep for a social support crutch of a person who can play all the political bits for them.
They're not autism advocates, but are the types who can pit against the usual mindgames in socializing.

But that's not exactly possible.
These type of people tend to be bosses, if not have their own life, and are usually not under someone else -- let alone if that someone is autistic.
Anyone who does have a person like this is very privileged as an autistic. Likely very rich or very lucky.

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