Babylon Bee Jokes About Inbred Racists, Fans Meltdown
People can scrutinize and critique without using labels.
I'm not against labels though. It's human nature to "label" things for better or worst. Makes it easier to seperate what serves us and what doesn't.
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People can scrutinize and critique without using labels.
That is true, however in practice there's often a lack of both efficiency and clarity in doing so. The main point in labeling things is so that you can short cut things a bit, and as long as the label genuinely fits and doesn't carry unnecessary meaning, it works out.
It’s also a means to stereotype and other people - to dismiss what they have to say.
“Oh, you’re just an SJW…”
Stuff like that.
Clarity is an issue as well because it can be murky as to where people choose to draw the line when it comes to labels.
I think it’s much better to address ideas.
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“Oh, you’re just an SJW…”
Stuff like that.
Clarity is an issue as well because it can be murky as to where people choose to draw the line.
I think it’s much better to address ideas.
Well I'm addressing the idea that their approach to fighting injustice is puritanical.
Besides not that I wish to defend Trump supporters, but I find it a bit ironic when people on the left claim labels are a bad thing yet they're perfectly ok with throwing around labels like "MAGAs", "Deplorables", and "Karens".
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I don’t use those labels.
I find the terms “woke” and “SJW” particularly tricky. Some staunch conservatives consider anything on the Left “woke.” A lot of it boils down to our current, polarized, political climate.
If people are going to use terms like “SJW” and “woke” to describe people who care about and fight for human rights, I would happily accept those labels, but I don’t appreciate it when they are used to dismiss what I have to say.
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I don’t use those labels.
I find the terms “woke” and “SJW” particularly problematic. Some staunch conservatives consider anything on the Left “woke.” A lot of it boils down to our current, polarized, political climate.
If people are going to use terms like “SJW” and “woke” to describe people who care about and fight for human rights, I would happily accept those labels, but I don’t appreciate it when they are used to dismiss what I have to say.
You know.... I think I'm actually agreeing with you now.
It's like when people call my mom a "Karen" just because she's an older white lady with blonde hair who isn't afraid to speak up when she gets treated like crap. I have long felt that the Karen label would be problematic because it reeks of sexism and it's racially-focused.
So if it helps I think I'm understanding where you're coming from now...
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I HATE the term “Karen,” but I don’t want to open that can of worms…again. I’ve never been called a Karen. Offline, I’m WAY too timid for people to think of me that way. I can certainly see how it could be used to dismiss someone’s needs and concerns though.
It’s absurd that people in the video got offended over a joke about white supremacists. Now that’s a group that no one should want to identify with.
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It’s absurd that people in the video got offended over a joke about white supremacists. Now that’s a group that no one should want to belong to.
I definetly agree with that. That's the scary thing about all this political turmoil in the US. There's that growing fear that we're only 1 or 2 elections away from fully embracing it...
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I would hazard a guess that those alt-right types you mention don't like the idea that people who think they are racist, are attacking who they think the alt-right types are, in the meta sense.
Sometimes the alt-right people genuinely believe they are not racist, but feel as though their political opposition are attacking them on false grounds.
I mean, that's what I think is happening anyway.
Based on the responses highlighted in the video, it seems like many there were racist and/or antisemitic and proud of it.
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I would hazard a guess that those alt-right types you mention don't like the idea that people who think they are racist, are attacking who they think the alt-right types are, in the meta sense.
Sometimes the alt-right people genuinely believe they are not racist, but feel as though their political opposition are attacking them on false grounds.
I mean, that's what I think is happening anyway.
Plus it doesn't help that there have been movements like Black Lives Matter declaring that all white people are racist.
Regardless if that is really true or not, no white person likes to be called a racist.
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My maternal grandfather was in the KKK. He was racist and proud of it. Not a very nice man on multiple levels. Some people are proud of their racism because they believe the target of their bigotry is inferior, often in various ways, which, in their minds, justifies their hatred.
Overall, most people who have some degree of racism don’t realize it and would refuse to acknowledge it if it was called out. Prejudice is much more common than many would believe.
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Better to reign in Hell than serve in Heaven. – Satan and TwilightPrincess
Overall, most people who have some degree of racism don’t realize it. Prejudice is much more common than many would believe.
That's... a weird coincidence. My mom had an uncle who was also in the KKK. I've met his wife (my aunt) who was was a very sweet lady to me and my mom, but I never met him which is probably a good thing seeing as my dad was Polynesian.
I guess in a way I've been subjected to racism at times. I'm pretty sure somewhere in my past I was called a "white island n****r" by members of my mom's family, but I can't even remember who said that to me...
Anyways I believe we can't really help who our ancestors were.
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