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Have you reality shifted before?
Yes 6%  6%  [ 1 ]
No 50%  50%  [ 8 ]
I have tried 13%  13%  [ 2 ]
I have gotten close 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
I want to 19%  19%  [ 3 ]
I am afraid to try 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
I have many times 6%  6%  [ 1 ]
Once 6%  6%  [ 1 ]
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26 Jun 2024, 2:21 am

Jakki wrote:
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But what does it accomplish?  What practical use does it have?
The nuisance of emotional processing, for one. A DIY therapy so to speak.
That almost makes sense.

However, it may be fair to remind you of an old truism: "The patient who treats himself has a fool for a doctor."

(Yes, I know the original truism referred to people who acted as their own legal counsel.)
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Because not everyone is a resilient stoic realist person who can handle all that stress in life and being disliked by their family.
Well, the OP is still only a kid, so maybe me expecting more adult behavior from him is unrealistic.


Very possibly you might reconsider the Truisms you , maintain those opinions on.
Available knowledge base for healthcare is now far beyond what the AMA will recognize at this point in time.
Having repeatedly seen ( So Called) Alternative medicine practices cure people that were given up on .
Information and experience provided through Preventative Healthcare practicioners. If needed ,PM for additional Info.

And legally Have Successfully defended others in cases against People who, brought their lawyers against them.
And many many times on my own behalf . (And have usually not gone out of my way to try to engage any of these
cases against myself ).Usually. only losing a few cases ,when , I was not allowed any considerations for my serious symptomatic conditions of ill health . Even during on one occassion,going through a meltdown . During which the court recorder and the judge attempted 5 time to repeat my plea to be recorded as guilty :evil: . Which each time as I was losing ability to function...repeated my correct plea for the records.Which was NOT my plea! 8O Be aware if you ever try these things be very prepared before you do. And pay strict attention to the words used .Often even your Lawyer you get will attempt a plea bargain on your behalf , even when it is not warranted. Just to be expediant. And have a fast turn over of clients,and take your money. :skull: (Just My Experiences). :lol:

Yeah, but what about Hillary?


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26 Jun 2024, 8:45 am

Fnord wrote:
Jakki wrote:
Fnord wrote:
Edna3362 wrote:
Fnord wrote:
But what does it accomplish?  What practical use does it have?
The nuisance of emotional processing, for one. A DIY therapy so to speak.
That almost makes sense.

However, it may be fair to remind you of an old truism: "The patient who treats himself has a fool for a doctor."

(Yes, I know the original truism referred to people who acted as their own legal counsel.)
Edna3362 wrote:
Because not everyone is a resilient stoic realist person who can handle all that stress in life and being disliked by their family.
Well, the OP is still only a kid, so maybe me expecting more adult behavior from him is unrealistic.


Very possibly you might reconsider the Truisms you , maintain those opinions on.
Available knowledge base for healthcare is now far beyond what the AMA will recognize at this point in time.
Having repeatedly seen ( So Called) Alternative medicine practices cure people that were given up on .
Information and experience provided through Preventative Healthcare practicioners. If needed ,PM for additional Info.

And legally Have Successfully defended others in cases against People who, brought their lawyers against them.
And many many times on my own behalf . (And have usually not gone out of my way to try to engage any of these
cases against myself ).Usually. only losing a few cases ,when , I was not allowed any considerations for my serious symptomatic conditions of ill health . Even during on one occassion,going through a meltdown . During which the court recorder and the judge attempted 5 time to repeat my plea to be recorded as guilty :evil: . Which each time as I was losing ability to function...repeated my correct plea for the records.Which was NOT my plea! 8O Be aware if you ever try these things be very prepared before you do. And pay strict attention to the words used .Often even your Lawyer you get will attempt a plea bargain on your behalf , even when it is not warranted. Just to be expediant. And have a fast turn over of clients,and take your money. :skull: (Just My Experiences). :lol:

Yeah, but what about Hillary?


Nobody asked me to help with her. :wink: ..... :D ... besides no love for politics but do have a penchant( tend towards)
for right and wrong.


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26 Jun 2024, 9:51 am

Is anyone else losing track of all these quotes?


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26 Jun 2024, 9:58 am

^ Most of the time a simple "Post Reply", addressing the post above like I did here, is sufficient but people just seem to click "Quote" instead until the quote limit is reached - which I'm considering reducing.
It would also help if the quoted post was edited to contain only what's being responded to but that too seems a goal too far.

Once upon a time the number of quotes was unlimited and nested quotes up to 15+ deep were quite common. 8O


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26 Jun 2024, 10:05 am

That would be a good idea cornflake. It is very confusing to see someone say fnord wrote that jakki wrote that auntblabby wrote etc. Probably around 2-3 would be good, since you shouldn't be quoting three people in one post


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26 Jun 2024, 10:09 am

Done - the quote limit is now three posts, but I'll keep it under review for a while.


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26 Jun 2024, 10:13 am

:lol:

Kids and internet forums sure are something :lol:


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26 Jun 2024, 10:18 am

Back on topic:

I first want to say that I'm really sorry that you are dealing with a LOT of things at once. While I can't fully understand your current situation, I can relate to the feeling of loss of control. There's a lot happening, you're having trouble processing what is happening, you want to escape to a better situation. I think that is something people have always done. You can zone out for a bit and not think about what life is going to be like for an x amount of time.

I want to ask, why dream about trying to do something instead of trying to do it yourself. Like your example with the birdhouse - why dream about constructing a bird house when you can try to build one yourself in real life? Sure it won't turn out perfectly but you are actually doing something, in reality. You are working with your hands, you're learning the measurements, you're learning how to use the tools. You can feel accomplished trying to do something rather than just...dreaming about it.


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26 Jun 2024, 10:20 am

I don't think your family hates you.

It's rough being a teenager. And going through a pretty traumatic death. Are you in therapy at the moment?


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26 Jun 2024, 10:32 am

Cornflake wrote:
Done - the quote limit is now three posts, but I'll keep it under review for now.


Am prolly not the one to be saying this , obvious reasons . but think that if you change a long established pattern for Site Usuage ...People whom regularily rely on patterns " some aspies" . It may cause discontent .And please notice , this is not the regular current practice on WP . Will this limitation apply Universally across all Planetary forums.?
But based on this interaction , As many statements made in posts appear unqualified,when part of a post is taken out of Context, ((Intentionally or otherwise)). This process has potential to create misunderstandings , I feel .
But If this helps the situation, I will strive to be more concise in my posting on long thhreads... :roll:
:scratch: ....in my efforts to have good clarity in my Postings??.
Wonders if Pragmatism was applied,in making decisions such as this one ??
( Perhaps since it takes me ,twice as long as most to , use any keyboard,due to loss of function of a arm )
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26 Jun 2024, 11:40 am

Branching out topics is common in this forum. :o And nests of quotes from varying usernames.

As for wall of texts, I tend to write long but I usually space them out.
It's just that my problem is more to do with sentence construction... :lol: :lol: :lol:

And my *cognitive profile* language processing issues; not because English is not my first language.

honeytoast wrote:
I want to ask, why dream about trying to do something instead of trying to do it yourself. Like your example with the birdhouse - why dream about constructing a bird house when you can try to build one yourself in real life? Sure it won't turn out perfectly but you are actually doing something, in reality. You are working with your hands, you're learning the measurements, you're learning how to use the tools. You can feel accomplished trying to do something rather than just...dreaming about it.

Why not both?

Because that dreaming in sleep time while meeting with fictional characters in a controlled lucid dreaming and working with one's hand learning handicrafts in one's waking life does not overlap, contradict or cancel out each other...

Personally, I tried to have it both.
Except, I hate sleep especially at that age. :lol: And I cannot physically play Minecraft without getting sick.
I have zero means for first person immersive creative mode. Arts doesn't necessarily translate.



And it's mentioned that the OP have frequent lucid dreams, wants a possible way to channel and control it than helplessly turning it into a nightmare session.

OP's waking and home life is another matter, however the point is a way to cope with that still. :shrug:


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26 Jun 2024, 4:16 pm

Enda3362 that's exactly it. A lot of my lucid dreams are extremely vivid, and I have no control. This tends to cause those nice dreams, to turn into a lucid nightmare. I just want to be able to control the dreams, so I can stop the nightmares. As for honeytoast, most of the time, I use lucid dreaming to do things I can't do in real life. For example, I went sky diving once in a dream, which I'm pretty sure I legally can't do yet, once I went racecar driving, and once I teleported into a video game. Sure, its not the same, as its just your brain trying to envision what it would be like in real life, but its still a lot of fun!


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27 Jun 2024, 2:09 am

One of the most common theme in many autistic reactions is panic and fear over lack of control and uncertainty.

Which creates some sort of loop -- your lack of control induces fear, your fear will manifest the nightmares, nightmares amplifies the fear, and unable to get rid or end of the nightmares adds into the fear more...
This is somehow true in the waking life.


But that's the thing...
The common reaction of many autistics is fear, especially during meltdowns, when they lack control.

Lack of control implies uncertainty and it's common for autistics to be intolerant of uncertainty.

I do not experience fear and panic over losing control. Not even while melting down.
On the contrary, it gave me a destructive yet not very voluntary break from many things than the feeling of helplessness. :o


My meta emotions, too, mattered -- to many, it's in synch with fear but to me, it's fascination and vigilance of the experience.

Or, boredom, frustration or annoyance, because I judged the feeling as 'my brain, acting inappropriately at the wrong time and place'.
But I don't try and stop fear itself; but trying to figure why the reaction...

..Because I don't exactly associate myself with my body, mind and emotions; I consider both bits of what makes me, the human -- is not all of me nor is me-self-me; only that one influences the other.

And my own reaction to uncertainty is different from that. I do not have the same intolerance and anxiety towards uncertainty.


A common theme I see in many autistics during fear is flight, freeze or fawn.
My fear reflex is almost always fight. I don't know if that's relevant or not.
I do not deal with the fear and anxiety cycles because I tend to end them rather quickly...

My body and mind and feelings (thus body and brain) could react in fear all they want; while me-self-me conscious 'me' somehow 'knew better' than to panic with them and take it as some sort of information and reason with that reaction...


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27 Jun 2024, 10:01 am

What I meant was, in my dream I LITERALLY have no control. Most of the time, when I have a lucid dream, its like I'm a prisoner in my own mind, basically. I'm there, but I can't control anything about the dream. And a lot of times, that either causes panic, or boredom, to the point where I'm in a lucid nightmare. Although ironically, I've actually became friends with a few of my nightmare characters. One of then was Freddy Fazbear, but one time, when he was in my nightmare, I simply turned around and asked him why he was chasing me. We ended up having a pretty nice conversation. But that usually doesn't happen in my lucid nightmares.


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27 Jun 2024, 10:45 am

Notice what's the difference from that dream from other lucid nightmares other than the event itself?

Different thoughts? Different emotions? Different sensations?

Can you try that again with different characters then? Question them?

Or, maybe, a factor the night before bedtime? Something happened during daytime?


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27 Jun 2024, 12:55 pm

Good news! I have created a forum specifically for reality shifting, which will allow cleaner, smoother and faster communication on the subject. If you would like to join, click this link: Reality Shifting Forum. Once you join, simply enter your nickname, and if you want to come back, make sure you bookmark the tab, or use the command /invite youremail. Please note, this chat is specifically for discussing reality shifting, so please keep all discussions either in PMs, or relatively on subject.


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