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07 Aug 2024, 2:34 am

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news on the deceased young man is being usurped by other events.

Got to wonder if it is intentional .....when something is rotten in some situation.. it seems to be the issue to sweep it under the Carpet ....Personally , I would LIKE to know his reasoning..only blind sheep might not care to know the full story, I would think ! Not Like Trump already has had the medua eating out of his hand on a daily basis ..
And would a thinking person , already suspect a conspirascy ? And more so ,with media reaction, to sweep it under the carpet????. :ninja: :roll: :evil:


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27 Aug 2024, 5:13 pm

Shooter in Trump assassination attempt used air-conditioning unit to get on roof

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The gunman in July's assassination attempt on former President Donald Trump gained access to the roof he fired from by getting atop an air-conditioning unit, a source briefed on the investigation into the shooting told NBC News on Tuesday.

The source said video recorded from a nearby ice cream shop shows the shooter using an air-conditioning unit to climb onto the rooftop of a building to get into position about 450 feet from where Trump was starting his speech.

NBC News has not reviewed the video, and it is not clear if it will be made public.

nvestigators have been working to determine how the gunman was able to get on top of the roof without being detected. They discovered that Thomas Crooks of nearby Bethel, Penn., purchased a ladder ahead of the incident, but ruled out that one was used to gain access to the roof.

Multiple witnesses say they saw Crooks on the roof moments before the shots rang out, and a local police officer climbed up, saw him with a gun and radioed a warning. But that warning never made it to the Secret Service agents protecting Trump, the agency’s director testified, and around 40 seconds later the shots were fired.

Investigators have said they believe Crooks used a gun with a collapsable barrel that allowed him to move through the crowd with the weapon undetected.

The building was outside a security perimeter established by the Secret Service, but it provided a clear shot at the former president. It houses a plastics and glass company.


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27 Aug 2024, 5:18 pm

this is hardly worth reporting. Like saying "we discovered Lee Harvey Oswald used the lift rather than the stairs to get to go up the book depository.

It seems the FBI hit a wall with Crooks.



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27 Aug 2024, 11:36 pm

quote: Investigators have said they believe Crooks used a gun with a collapsable barrel that allowed him to move through the crowd with the weapon

Collapsable...what ? 8O


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28 Aug 2024, 7:23 am

well....you dont have to go all tin-hat to see that some one messed up.

The local civilians all yelled that "there is a guy with a GUN at that roof" to the local cops. The word shoulda reached the secret service. And they should not have allowed Trump to ascend to the stage in the first place. "Sir, we have a visual on a possible gunman, you hafta stand down for now". Indeed they shoulda just cancelled the event because "sir, we just neutralized that suspected gunman, but he might have accomplices...".



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28 Aug 2024, 1:15 pm

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well....you dont have to go all tin-hat to see that some one messed up.

The local civilians all yelled that "there is a guy with a GUN at that roof" to the local cops. The word shoulda reached the secret service. And they should not have allowed Trump to ascend to the stage in the first place. "Sir, we have a visual on a possible gunman, you hafta stand down for now". Indeed they shoulda just cancelled the event because "sir, we just neutralized that suspected gunman, but he might have accomplices...".

The whole thing is very strange. The DOJ has said there is an active Iranian plot to assassinate Trump. This was known before the rally. Amazing how fast this became yesterday's news. We still don’t know gunman’s motive and probably never will.


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28 Aug 2024, 4:28 pm

It is very strange.

On more than one level.

Some say that the moment he was supposedly hit by a bullet and bled...he was actually hit by a piece of someone's else's tissue (a person actually struck by a bullet), or by a piece of plastic from an object (like a monitor) hit. And Trump himself has been covering up the fact.

That on top of the institutional weirdness of the Secret service, and the Iran angle.



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28 Aug 2024, 4:32 pm

Trump shooter also searched for info on RNC and DNC, FBI says

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The man who attempted to assassinate Donald Trump last month had searched for information on both the Republican National Convention and the Democratic National Convention before ultimately opening fire on the former president's rally in Butler, Pennsylvania, FBI officials told reporters Wednesday, suggesting that the Trump event was a "target of opportunity."

FBI officials also said they had found no indication or evidence that any co-conspirators worked with 20-year-old Thomas Matthew Crooks, who attempted to kill Trump just days before he accepted the 2024 Republican nomination at the RNC.

"I want to be clear: We have not seen any indication to suggest Crooks was directed by a foreign entity to conduct the attack," FBI Assistant Director Bobby Wells told reporters.

Another official, Kevin Rojek, the FBI special agent in charge of the bureau’s Pittsburgh field office, said that, in addition to searching for information on both conventions, the shooter also searched for details of campaign events held by both Trump and President Joe Biden, who was still the presumptive Democratic nominee when Trump was shot.

Crooks engaged in a “sustained, detailed effort to plan an attack" and "looked at any number of events and targets" before ultimately "hyperfocusing" on the Trump rally after it was announced in early July. The Trump rally appears to have been a “target of opportunity,” Rojek said.

Rojek said that investigators found a "mixture of ideologies" in the content the FBI recovered from Crooks' accounts. "I would say that we see no definitive ideology associated with our subject, either left-leaning or right-leaning," he said. "It's really been a mixture and something we're still attempting to analyze and draw conclusions on."

The shooter’s family had been “extremely cooperative” with the investigation, Rojek added.

The FBI said its victim impact interview with Trump was "productive" and noted that it had provided the former president with an "in-depth briefing" on the investigation.

"We're grateful to the former president for his cooperation and his time," Rojek said


Now weeks later we are suddenly getting all this information.


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28 Aug 2024, 4:51 pm

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While it would be extrordinary if the blood was from some other poor victim, I think the film clearly shows a bullet whizzing past trump's orange head.



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28 Aug 2024, 4:54 pm

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The local civilians all yelled that "there is a guy with a GUN at that roof" to the local cops. The word shoulda reached the secret service. And they should not have allowed Trump to ascend to the stage in the first place. "Sir, we have a visual on a possible gunman, you hafta stand down for now". Indeed they shoulda just cancelled the event because "sir, we just neutralized that suspected gunman, but he might have accomplices...".


the secret service claim they initially had him in their sights then prior to the shots lost view temporarily. I think the issue is whether they should have pro-actively taken him down but then I suspect no agent wants to be hauled up in front of a tribunal for killing some over-excited kid who thought he could climb the roof for a better view. the gun should have been a red flag though.



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28 Aug 2024, 5:00 pm

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I think you and Mr. Hartmann have just sold me on this. Yeah, why wasn't a medical report issued? That is unless, it didn't agree with the narrative Trump was spinning after that real hero was shot behind him.


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28 Aug 2024, 10:05 pm

Love the jab at Iran... so many posts above ....At one point Iran was our Ally in the MiddleEast ...bosom buddies.
And of course , dear Israel , really really wants war with its nearest competitor in the Area .. Iran...which has US style Universities , and women , may have a few more rights ..? and do not ask me what . for sure , that they might be ?
but it is a Islam based country .
Been thinking our next 9/11 will be Iran sponsored, or so we will be told ? ....Start painting the bad guys ,to look very bad, as conveinent for our US politics ? 8O ?


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28 Aug 2024, 11:38 pm

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Love the jab at Iran... so many posts above ....At one point Iran was our Ally in the MiddleEast ...bosom buddies.
And of course , dear Israel , really really wants war with its nearest competitor in the Area .. Iran...which has US style Universities , and women , may have a few more rights ..? and do not ask me what . for sure , that they might be ?
but it is a Islam based country .
Been thinking our next 9/11 will be Iran sponsored, or so we will be told ? ....Start painting the bad guys ,to look very bad, as conveinent for our US politics ? 8O ?


Not to derail the thread, but it's become abundantly clear that Netanyahu would like America to take care of their Iran problem. Hence, Netanyahu's urging Trump to drop out of the nuclear deal with the Iranians, thus creating a worse problem with that country till war would be inevitable.


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29 Aug 2024, 2:55 am

Putin getting his bots ready for November



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29 Aug 2024, 4:42 am

Photo shows Crook's bullet whizzing past trump
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