Kamala Harris has enough delegates to win nomination

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23 Jul 2024, 10:02 am

Kamala Harris wins enough support to clinch Democratic nomination

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Vice-President Kamala Harris has secured the support of a majority of Democratic delegates to become the party's nominee for president.

A survey by the Associated Press on Monday evening said she had received the endorsement of more than the 1,976 delegates needed to win the nomination in the first round of voting.
That means Ms Harris is on course to be crowned the party's standard bearer and take on Republican Donald Trump in November's presidential election.

It becomes official when party delegates hold a roll call vote ahead of next month's Democratic National Convention (DNC) in Chicago.

Delegates are people who are selected to represent their electoral area. Their pledges of support are non-binding until the vote but unlikely to chang

If the total holds between now and when delegates cast their votes, scheduled to take place from 1-7 August, Ms Harris would formally clinch the party's nomination.

Speaking to staff at her campaign's headquarters in Wilmington, Delaware, on Monday evening, Ms Harris had Trump in her sights.

Referring to her early career as a prosecutor in California who took on predators and fraudsters, she added: "I know Donald Trump's type."

She said the Biden-Harris campaign had always been about two different versions of the future of the country - theirs and Trump's.

"One focuses on the future, the other focuses on the past," she said. "Donald Trump wants to take our country backwards... we believe in a brighter future that makes room for all Americans."
She also noted Mr Biden's accomplishments, saying her time serving as his vice-president was "one of the greatest honours of my life".

This process so far is a lot less messy then I expected.


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23 Jul 2024, 10:35 am

Good luck to her. I think she has what it takes to beat the nutty orange man.


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23 Jul 2024, 10:43 am

They seem to be moving pretty quick with this

It's a pity Biden didn't see fit to step aside sooner, they might have had it in the bag already


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23 Jul 2024, 11:12 am

The best thing to ever happen to Trump was being shot by Crooks.

The worst thing to ever happen to Trump was Biden choosing to abdicate the election.

The first is because now no one can joke about Trump being "Mr. bone spurs" anymore because now he has earned the equivalent of a purple heart by being wounded "in battle" so to speak. He gets to be a martyr without having to die.

But now he is no longer the second most senile candidate. Now he is the most senile candidate. So that scrutiny has switched to him.



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23 Jul 2024, 12:24 pm

babybird wrote:
They seem to be moving pretty quick with this

It's a pity Biden didn't see fit to step aside sooner, they might have had it in the bag already

She's going to get destroyed if they don't have a real contested convention and choose to anoint here anyways. She was one of the least popular candidates in 2020 and she's done basically nothing to make people think that she's prepared for the job. She might be ready, but she's got a little over 3 months to not just convince people's she's ready, but to also convince them that she's a better choice than Trump is. She probably is a better choice, but he's got his voters largely locked in an hardly needs any of the independents to cruise to victory.

The Democrats don't seem to ever learn their lesson. The way this is supposed to work is they're supposed to promise things that the voters find desirable to gain the votes and then they're supposed to be genuine effort into making those promises happen in order to gain their votes for the next election.

I don't see any of that happening and it's been quite a while as the party has gotten lazier and lazier. Obama promised a lot of things and basically didn't deliver on much of any of it. And Neither HRC nor Biden bothered to promise things to win over the progressives and independents. I don't know if anybody even knows what Kamala would do on a bunch of the issues as she is pretty much a skinwalker in terms of only going with whatever she thinks people want to hear now.



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23 Jul 2024, 12:45 pm

naturalplastic wrote:
The best thing to ever happen to Trump was being shot by Crooks.

The worst thing to ever happen to Trump was Biden choosing to abdicate the election.

The first is because now no one can joke about Trump being "Mr. bone spurs" anymore because now he has earned the equivalent of a purple heart by being wounded "in battle" so to speak. He gets to be a martyr without having to die.

But now he is no longer the second most senile candidate. Now he is the most senile candidate. So that scrutiny has switched to him.

Agree with the above but
Her big problem is that she is Biden’s VP.
Her biggest possible advantage is that she is the Vice President.

She will be tied to the coverup of Biden’s cognitive decline.
She will be tied to Biden’s unpopular policies.
She has to separate herself from Biden to be seen as her own person but not too much lest she be seen as ungrateful. Tough.

For much of Biden’s term Harris as with most VP’s has been largely in the background. This is an opportunity to rebrand her unlikable public image.


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23 Jul 2024, 1:36 pm

MatchboxVagabond wrote:
babybird wrote:
They seem to be moving pretty quick with this

It's a pity Biden didn't see fit to step aside sooner, they might have had it in the bag already

She's going to get destroyed if they don't have a real contested convention and choose to anoint here anyways. She was one of the least popular candidates in 2020 and she's done basically nothing to make people think that she's prepared for the job. She might be ready, but she's got a little over 3 months to not just convince people's she's ready, but to also convince them that she's a better choice than Trump is. She probably is a better choice, but he's got his voters largely locked in an hardly needs any of the independents to cruise to victory.

The Democrats don't seem to ever learn their lesson. The way this is supposed to work is they're supposed to promise things that the voters find desirable to gain the votes and then they're supposed to be genuine effort into making those promises happen in order to gain their votes for the next election.

I don't see any of that happening and it's been quite a while as the party has gotten lazier and lazier. Obama promised a lot of things and basically didn't deliver on much of any of it. And Neither HRC nor Biden bothered to promise things to win over the progressives and independents. I don't know if anybody even knows what Kamala would do on a bunch of the issues as she is pretty much a skinwalker in terms of only going with whatever she thinks people want to hear now.


You're forgetting that republicans in congress and the house of representatives do everything they possibly can to block and slow down anything the democrats want to do. So, I am not so sure it's really a case of laziness on the part of the Democrats.

You are right that she has a lot of work to do, if she is to defeat Trump.


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23 Jul 2024, 2:11 pm

ASPartOfMe wrote:
naturalplastic wrote:
The best thing to ever happen to Trump was being shot by Crooks.

The worst thing to ever happen to Trump was Biden choosing to abdicate the election.

The first is because now no one can joke about Trump being "Mr. bone spurs" anymore because now he has earned the equivalent of a purple heart by being wounded "in battle" so to speak. He gets to be a martyr without having to die.

But now he is no longer the second most senile candidate. Now he is the most senile candidate. So that scrutiny has switched to him.

Agree with the above but
Her big problem is that she is Biden’s VP.
Her biggest possible advantage is that she is the Vice President.

She will be tied to the coverup of Biden’s cognitive decline.
She will be tied to Biden’s unpopular policies.
She has to separate herself from Biden to be seen as her own person but not too much lest she be seen as ungrateful. Tough.

For much of Biden’s term Harris as with most VP’s has been largely in the background. This is an opportunity to rebrand her unlikable public image.

Biden was unpopular despite the fact that all of his policies were popular. So your post makes no sense.



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23 Jul 2024, 2:11 pm

I'm not heavily into USA politics but I see it as a choice between wanting a country that's civilised, forward thinking , and progressive vs an uncivilised, and backward yearning, country under Trump. I hope that voters opt for a civilised USA.



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23 Jul 2024, 2:16 pm

Yeah I just hope that too


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23 Jul 2024, 3:06 pm

I wish I understand politic



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23 Jul 2024, 3:29 pm

firemonkey wrote:
I'm not heavily into USA politics but I see it as a choice between wanting a country that's civilised, forward thinking , and progressive vs an uncivilised, and backward yearning, country under Trump. I hope that voters opt for a civilised USA.

Both parties are pro-fascist. The big difference is how quickly we get there. The only reason we are in this position is that the Democrats keep rigging their primaries in favor of corporatist candidates and keep chasing right wing voters at the expense of liberal and progressive ones.