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26 Jul 2024, 11:14 pm

'It will be fixed': Trump tells supporters 'you won’t have to vote again' if he wins

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During a recent campaign rally, former President Donald Trump appeared to suggest that voting in elections will be a thing of the past if he gets a second term in office.

The 45th president of the United States made the remarks while addressing a crowd of evangelical supporters at the Turning Point Action summit in West Palm Beach, Florida. After former Housing and Urban Development Secretary Ben Carson introduced Trump, he launched into a speech that culminated with him calling on evangelicals to vote for him. The former president insinuated that 2024 would be the last election they would have to participate in because society would be “fixed.”

“And again, Christians: Get out and vote! Just this time. You won’t have to do it anymore! Four more years, you know what? It’ll be fixed, it’ll be fine. You won’t have to vote anymore,” he said. “In four years you don’t have to vote again, we’ll have it fixed so good you’re not gonna have to vote.”

Trump did not elaborate on how things would be “fixed” if he won a second term, but the remark is yet another signal of a decidedly more authoritarian approach to governing than Trump had in his first term. During an interview with Fox News’ Sean Hannity, Trump said that he would be a “dictator,” but only on “day one” so he could “close the border” and “drill baby drill.” President Joe Biden, for his part, has overseen a 40% drop in illegal border crossings since passing an executive order cracking down on asylum applications and domestic oil production is at an all-time high under Biden. In May, the U.S. Energy Information Administration found that the United States is producing more oil than even Russia and Saudi Arabia.

The former president’s suggestion that things would be “fixed” so his supporters would no longer have to vote could be a reference to a Project 2025 partner organization’s call for the abolition of the 22nd Amendment, which established presidential term limits. In a March essay for the American Conservative, writer Paul Tonguette framed repealing the 22nd Amendment as expanding freedom for American voters.

“If, by 2028, voters feel Trump has done a poor job, they can pick another candidate; but if they feel he has delivered on his promises, why should they be denied the freedom to choose him once more?” He wrote. “As with Prohibition, it is simply a matter of finding the will to get rid of bad idea that needlessly limits Americans’ freedom.”

“Trump in 2028!” he added.

In recent weeks, Trump has sought to distance himself from the far-right Heritage Foundation’s authoritarian Project 2025 blueprint for the next Republican administration. Even though Trump has repeatedly denied knowledge of the group’s leaders or the details of Project 2025, Heritage has undercut those denials in its own fundraising materials.

Earlier this week, Media Matters for America reported that Heritage has consistently boasted about its close connections with Trump and his first administration, placing dozens of its alumni in his orbit and some in “key positions” in the Trump White House. The group also proclaimed that Trump implemented roughly two-thirds of its policy proposals in his first year in office.


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26 Jul 2024, 11:31 pm

"Dictator for Life" is the title he's after.



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26 Jul 2024, 11:49 pm



Interesting admission, Trump clearly says he's not Christian.

Like, no s**t, but also something that would be campaign suicide for most Republican candidates.


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26 Jul 2024, 11:56 pm

Getting tips from his mentor Putin



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27 Jul 2024, 5:12 am

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Interesting admission, Trump clearly says he's not Christian.

Like, no s**t, but also something that would be campaign suicide for most Republican candidates.

People who vote for him have known he is a big-time sinner and has Jewish family members for years and voted for him anyway. Why would this comment be any different?

It is 2024 and the MAGA's have been around for 9 years and people like the youtuber still do not understand that his voters
think statements such as this and wanting to be a dictator for a day are jokes, all the better because "woke" people do take him literally and have "tantrums" which they get off on.


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27 Jul 2024, 9:41 am

A third of American adults never vote. Both parties try to cajole them into voting.... for their side. And with religious Protestants (ie "Christians")even if they DO vote they often dont vote "as Christians" because American Protestants are generally opposed to "Dominionism" (enforcing the pulpit with the secular ballot box to dictate law in the secular world). Or not until recently anyway.

So Trump is actually pleading with both the lazy constituency (get off your ass and vote this one time), and with the religious Anti-Domionists (make this one exception..vote this one time pleeeeeze) to vote one time as Christians.

He isnt actually saying "vote for me as el Presidente for life". Even though he does wanna be the Maxim Leader for life.



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27 Jul 2024, 7:56 pm

funeralxempire wrote:


Interesting admission, Trump clearly says he's not Christian.

Like, no s**t, but also something that would be campaign suicide for most Republican candidates.


When I listen to that video, I don't have full confidence in going down this road. It does sound like "I'm not Christian", but it does not flow out of or into the surrounding statements. To me it sounds like it could be a gaff (which Trump has many) where he was trying to say something but failed and it came out in a way where it sounded like he said "I'm not Christian", but he was really meaning to say something else. Some would say that's a Freudian slip, but IDK. Also I could be totally off and it could be that he did in fact say and mean that. I'm just a little skeptical.

This certainly won't change anyone's mind on him.


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27 Jul 2024, 11:24 pm

funeralxempire wrote:
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“And again, Christians: Get out and vote! Just this time. You won’t have to do it anymore! Four more years, you know what? It’ll be fixed, it’ll be fine. You won’t have to vote anymore,” he said. “In four years you don’t have to vote again, we’ll have it fixed so good you’re not gonna have to vote.”

He wouldn't want to fix it even if he could. And neither would pastors, clergy and other church leaders. Their whole model of religious control depends on making their congregation believe they're in a perpetual state of crisis.

They must always believe there's an existential threat to their religion because if you tell your flock that everything is fine, you lose control of them.


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29 Jul 2024, 7:33 pm

He'll be a dictator for 12 years and if things don't end up going his way, he'll commit suicide.


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29 Jul 2024, 7:43 pm

Harmonie wrote:
When I listen to that video, I don't have full confidence in going down this road. It does sound like "I'm not Christian", but it does not flow out of or into the surrounding statements.


After having heard it a few dozen times I'll agree with you on this take. The syllable sounds too long to really sound like ima Christian, but it's a very lazy not, if that's what he said; it sounds like imna Christian.


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30 Jul 2024, 8:05 am

I don't think he is saying he will outlaw elections so much as he is saying that if he takes office, his administration will fix so many issues important to conservative Christian voters that they won't actually need to vote anymore.

It appeals to the widespread conservative distaste for political involvement. It's far from universal, but I'm sure plenty of us have encountered conservatives over the years who consider political activism and involvement to be stuff those busybody Democrats do. I routinely see conservatives lament how politicized society has become and how they long for the Good Old Days when politics were more easily ignored and avoided. I see many conservatives who will accept an "apolitical" society even if they can't have a more actively conservative one.
Trump offers conservative Christians a society so in line with their values that they'll be able to sit around at home and disengage from the political process. I would be surprised if there were many Christians outside of die-hard fans of his who actually buy this quatsch.


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30 Jul 2024, 1:02 pm

Basically agree with this ^.

Though I have never seen evidence that churchgoers vote less than non church goers.

Its that they dont vote as Christians (ie try to legislate morality via ballot box). Historically most American religious are opposed to "Dominionism" (forcing religion on society via government). Which is to their credit actually.

So it would make a certain weird kinda sense for Trump to say "break that rule and vote your religion this ONE time, and then carry on as normal forever after".