Does Kamala's candidacy make you more hopeful?

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29 Jul 2024, 6:19 pm

I'm still very worried that she won't win the election, but the process of Biden dropping out and Kamala Harris emerging as the likely candidate has been a salve and a new hope.



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29 Jul 2024, 6:49 pm

I feel the republicans are forgetting about abortion rights and Americans don't want to go back to the dark ages and be ruled by an old, incompetent dictator. I hope a majority of Americans will vote democratic and will vote for Harris and the future. In answer to your question I feel Harris is a much better candidate than Biden and makes me hopeful for a democratic win



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29 Jul 2024, 6:56 pm

With the exception of the authoritarian states, the whole planet feels relief.
Make Russia Great Again and the American Taliban will tip this planet over the edge unless the gullible wake up.

I must admit a reluctant admiration of the insidious methods Russia used to conscript right wing USA into ditching Republican principles.

Maybe McCarthy was right after all.



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29 Jul 2024, 7:13 pm

Too bad there can't be a candidate who's both Pro-Life and for LGBTQ rights. If I was American, I wouldn't vote in this year's election.


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29 Jul 2024, 7:23 pm

Yes.


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29 Jul 2024, 7:38 pm

CockneyRebel wrote:
Too bad there can't be a candidate who's both Pro-Life and for LGBTQ rights.


It makes me wonder how many people who oppose abortion (and birth control) do so primarily because they see it as providing an artificial equality, rather than because they're genuinely concerned about sanctity of life. These are the folks who talk about abortion as a means for avoiding responsibility, rather than as a health care or bodily autonomy issue.

They view some people's primary purpose to be to bear children, so opposing queer rights and opposing women's rights dovetail towards that goal. They don't want people to be in 'non-productive' relationships and they don't want women to have control over 'production'.

I know you're sincere with your anti-abortion views being motivated by sanctity of life, but I get the feeling the genuinely pro-life bloc gets used as a means to an end by people who primarily just want to impose traditional gender roles and don't really care about sanctity of life in a broader sense.


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29 Jul 2024, 7:39 pm

I'm feeling a lot more hopeful although I'm still worried that she won't win. Still, she stands a much bigger chance than Biden would’ve, and I think she'll make a much better President.


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29 Jul 2024, 8:26 pm

Definitely not. They need to have a contested convention to make the nominee actually earn the nomination. It's the same basic problem they had with HRC where she started out with most of the necessary delegates to lock it up before a single primary vote was cast.

The worst thing though is that if Harris is the candidate and loses, you'll get a bunch of BS about how men won't vote for women. And if she does win, then it just sends the message that the DNC can keep forcing candidates down our throats. The best case would be the contested convention and maybe she'll surprise us and actually earn the nomination. Or as much as is possible after Biden screwed the country out of the opportunity to have a say.



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29 Jul 2024, 9:21 pm

funeralxempire wrote:
CockneyRebel wrote:
Too bad there can't be a candidate who's both Pro-Life and for LGBTQ rights.


I know you're sincere with your anti-abortion views being motivated by sanctity of life, but I get the feeling the genuinely pro-life bloc gets used as a means to an end by people who primarily just want to impose traditional gender roles and don't really care about sanctity of life in a broader sense.


What gets my hackles up is that NONE of the pro-lifers I have EVER queried have their name on the embryo transplant register.
These days men could carry a pregnancy, so gender is no excuse.

Hypocrisy has no bounds.



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29 Jul 2024, 9:24 pm

bee33 wrote:
Does Kamala's candidacy make you more hopeful?
Somewhat.

Her election is not a sure thing, but her presence diminishes Mr. Trump's chances -- however much remains to be seen.


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29 Jul 2024, 10:22 pm

Yes.

Rooting for Biden was getting to be like watching a high wire act. Nerve wracking after a few death defying minutes.

Now I can relax.

And she does seem to have a galvinizing effect on the electorate in a good way.



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30 Jul 2024, 3:02 am

CockneyRebel wrote:
Too bad there can't be a candidate who's both Pro-Life and for LGBTQ rights. If I was American, I wouldn't vote in this year's election.

Would Kamala consider Pete Buttigeig as a running mate?



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30 Jul 2024, 3:36 am

Yes, but.

The sad truth is that I'd feel more hopeful if the democrats had put Generic McWhitedude up against Trump.

To be clear, that's my outsiders judgement on America, not my judgement on Kamala Harris.


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30 Jul 2024, 6:59 am

Yes, I prefer Kamala over Biden, because she is younger and does not appear to suffer from dementia. If it is true, the rumor I read on wrongplanet, that she has Asperger's, then that is still vastly preferable to dementia, and not such a big deal, in my book.

However, I am not a Democrat, so I will not vote for Kamala. I still prefer her over Biden though.



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30 Jul 2024, 7:35 am

Living in reality, I'll go with anyone but Trump. or Vance.


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30 Jul 2024, 7:54 am

It makes me more hopeful than the candidacy of the senile skinbag who is always 2-3 medical problems away from keeling over. Which is to say, still not very hopeful at all.


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