Astronomer has unambiguous evidence of UFOs

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19 Sep 2024, 3:22 am

Dr Beatriz Villarroel at the Nordic Institute for Theoretical Physics in Stockholm, Sweden, and colleagues published evidence of UFOs in a scholarly paper according a recent interview on News Nation.
https://www.newsnationnow.com/space/phy ... to%20orbit.

the original peer-reviewed paper appeared in the journal Scientific Reports – a publication of the prestigious journal Nature – published on June 17, 2021.

Something odd happened back in 1950, when astronomers noticed that nine starlike point sources of light had simultaneously appeared in a photographic plate acquired at the Palomar Observatory in Southern California as part of the famous Palomar Sky Survey. That might or might not sound unusual. But … none of those point sources were seen in images taken just before, of the same small patch of sky. Likewise, they didn’t appear in images taken after, either. That remains true through today, even with images from current surveys that are much more sensitive to faint objects. So what were these nine weird transients?

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So far, citizen scientists and professional astronomers working via VASCO have found about 100 transient objects, mostly on Palomar Sky Survey red plates. For her work on this project, Villarroel was recently awarded the L’Oréal-Unesco For Women in Science Prize in Sweden.

Anyone interested in the debate on the identity of these objects can read about it here
https://earthsky.org/space/9-weird-tran ... tory-1950/



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19 Sep 2024, 3:35 am

I'm thinking a dodgy photographic plate. One of the objects look elongated which would translate to it being the size of a galaxy unless it was extremely close to earth.



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19 Sep 2024, 3:56 am

Nades wrote:
I'm thinking a dodgy photographic plate. One of the objects look elongated which would translate to it being the size of a galaxy unless it was extremely close to earth.


Yes that was one of the counter-claims made about the anomalies. Dr Beatriz Villarroel does, however, account for this theory. Her current hypothesis in her interview is the origin of the objects remain a mystery.



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19 Sep 2024, 8:45 am

If we start from the premise that all anomalies are aliens until proven otherwise they've definitely found some aliens, so long as we don't care about any follow up information that might suggest otherwise.


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19 Sep 2024, 10:38 am

It may be intriguing but it does not seem very definitive at all.



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19 Sep 2024, 11:36 am

Could be radiation from a distant nuclear test. The US and Soviet Union were doing numerous above ground nuclear tests at that time. Photographic film from that era can pick up on radiation from thousands of miles away, which is how Kodak learned about the Manhattan Project.



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19 Sep 2024, 4:36 pm

Yeah I am beginning to think this is not as convincing as first postulated given this was April 1950, but assuming these were artifacts it does seem strange this is a "one-off" and not repeated in other photo plates taken of the night sky over an extended period? In other words it should be repeatable to detect artifacts based on this happening once.

Dr Beatriz Villarroel actually published a book on this and according to her "we conducted exhaustive research couldn’t identify any clear instrumental issue that would explain these nine stars there and vanished."
Coincidentally she has been the subject of a coordinated campaign to smear her reputation
https://psu.pb.unizin.org/hxlibraries24 ... community/



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19 Sep 2024, 4:42 pm

bsickler wrote:
Could be radiation from a distant nuclear test. The US and Soviet Union were doing numerous above ground nuclear tests at that time. Photographic film from that era can pick up on radiation from thousands of miles away, which is how Kodak learned about the Manhattan Project.


What makes the disappearing objects tantalising is the night sky was free of debri as no satellites had yet been launched so there was zero debri in the line of sight between telescopes and stars.

On the radiation hypothesis, if it was one flash then possible, but 9? randomly through the field of view? but again the technology can be considered a limiting factor, it's a pity the discrepancy was not picked up in 1950 in the 50min that elapsed between plate exposure.



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19 Sep 2024, 10:20 pm

Nothing in the article or the images is convincing "evidence".  Hypotheses and speculation prove nothing.


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21 Sep 2024, 1:08 am

Fnord wrote:
Nothing in the article or the images is convincing "evidence".  Hypotheses and speculation prove nothing.

I was hoping with your naval technical background you might know something about photographic plate anomalies from the 1950s?