Should Muslims be persecuted?

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I think we should kill them all. Just kidding.

I guess that makes it all better, right?

This world is so f*****g screwed up. I wish I didn't have to share a planet with such immoral people.

Atheists have it easy. A Christian fanatic goes up to them and says, "Convert or die." Atheists have no compunction against saying, "OK" and then doing the opposite. If an atheist does the same thing to a Christian, a Christian potentially loses his/her salvation and must endure unspeakable tortures to keep the faith. Although in the end, it will lead to a renewal of Christianity, so it will be worth it. The blood of the martyrs is the seed of the Christian church. And maybe God will spare me the pain, as He hath done to other martyrs in history.

Sopho, you may think I'm an idiot and that's OK, but when you say things like you did in the other thread, it drives me nuts with paranoia. You probably like it that way, though, as does Starbuline and the rest of the sadistic atheists out there.

sadistic is offering free ham outside a synagogue.



you don't have to live with immoral people, you can separate yourself from society and live in isolation. it's not easy but it's been done and can still be done (look up about survivalists).


with regards to your rewording of pascal's wager....it's assuming that "salvation" exists but there is no such proof salvation exists and there's less and less proof every day as miracles don't happen anymore since we can actually explain the miracles and pick out the hoaxes. faith healers are as impotent as they ever were but now there's real medicine and biological studies to really help people instead of the the fake/faith healing that those charlatans do.

my old neighbors were muslims and they were awesome guys and really open about discussing their religion with me and my roommate. they never threatened us or anything and generally accepted us as is as atheists. they didn't agree with our choice but agreed on the point of wanting a better world first and foremost. alot more accepting than the christians here whining about persecution and yet they don't even know what real persecution is other than rosey stories of the christian martyrs.


as far as claiming to be with immoral people...immoral how? and what makes you the one to declare what is moral or not? get off your highhorse and back to the real world, jerk.

I wish people who call themselves Christians wouldn't post inflammatory topics about persecuting this and that group. Haven't we seen enough of this s**t recently here? It just leads to more and more trouble. If Christians are unhappy about their lot in life, and want to persecute Muslims, pagans etc because they feel aggrieved, then maybe they should take a step back, and have a good look at their 'reality', because all this s**t, frankly, has to stop. All this inflammatory talk by you Christians is why the Muslims hate you in the first place. Don't you realise they are just the same as you, the only diference is they worship another faith? It's the fundamentalists that are the problem, and it seems to me fundamentalist Christians are just as much to blame. Get over this s**t and learn to live peacefully.

I wasn't actually having a go at you personally, Chuch; I totally blame Raggy and parakeet for the whole mess. I've copped plenty of flack for giving my views on their forums, but I refuse to let them scare me off. Nor should you. Don't fall for their bait. I personally don't care what religion people are, or what they believe; the problem is when people get so cocky, arrogant and pious trying to 'defend' those beliefs, and then bash the opposition into submission in the process. I don't believe you have, but you have been sucked in by their con trick, and unfortunately, that's a small 'pyrrhic' (sp) victory on their part. Most of us who argued opposingly to parakeet and Ragtime are being called flamers, trolls etc, just for voicing out opinions and I think that has to stop. If they don't want to debate reasonably, then maybe they should find their own forum.

Keep posting, and don't let them get to you.

This is a very inflammatory thread n'est-ce pas.

There are no muslims or Christians, there are only individuals.

You don't even have to believe that christ was who he (reportedly) clamied to be to follow what he taught.

A lot of his teachings make sense without throwing the religious crap into it. To me, the people who are only nice to others because they're after the long term reward of going to heaven are going about things for the completely wrong reasons anyway. If hell exists they'll probably all go there instead.

No, no, no! Genocide of any group is wrong.

Oh, and Muslims are basically Christians anyway. A rose by any other name is still a rose etc. It's like the catholic versus protestant thing that used to be such a big thing in years gone by. As both Christians and Muslims believe the same thing in my eyes, whatever you say should be done to Muslims should be done to yourself.

Although tbh, if you were to say that something should be done to another religious group, it probably means that you're not really a christian anyway. The word doublethink definitely applies here. Your views go against everything your religion stands for don't they? You're just using your religion as an excuse for xenophobia. Funny when you consider the fact that both christianity and Islam originate from the exact same place, neither of which is anywhere near the place you come from. You'd probably spit on jesus if you met him in the street for coming from the middle east.

no, christians should.

Yeah, it's more fun persecuting Christians. And I don't want a mob of angry Muslims coming after me for my head.