In spite of Trump Democrats are in deep trouble
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Bad News, Democrats. Your Party Has Never Been More Unpopular
Why It Matters
The scale of Trump's triumph has sparked widespread soul-searching within the Democratic Party over what went wrong and how to rebuild. Democratic Senate leader Chuck Schumer has come under sustained criticism from within his party after voting last week to advance a Republican funding bill in a bid to avoid a government shutdown. The fallout over the vote highlights divisions among Democrats over how to proceed under the Trump administration.
What To Know
NBC News polled 1,000 registered American voters between March 7 and 11. While 55 percent of respondents said they had a negative view of the Democratic Party, 27 percent said they had a positive perception. The poll had a margin of error of 3.1 percentage points.
The negative and positive figures for the Democrats were respectively the highest and lowest recorded since the network began its polling series more than three decades ago.
The survey also found that 38 percent of voters had a "very" negative view of the Democrats, contrasting 7 percent who had a "very" positive perception. Among independent voters, 11 percent had a positive view of the Democrats, while 56 percent saw them negatively.
There was also evidence of dissatisfaction with the party from its base, with 20 percent of Democratic voters viewing it negatively, twice as high as the figure for Republicans who had a negative view of their party.
Among Democratic voters, 65 percent said they wanted their congressional representatives to "stick to their positions even if that means not being able to get things done in Washington," while 32 percent said they should "make compromises with Trump to gain consensus on legislation."
The findings represented a significant shift from Trump's first term. In April 2017, 59 percent of Democratic voters backed the compromise option.
On March 14, Schumer and nine other Democratic senators backed the Republicans' spending bill in a procedural vote, reaching the 60-vote threshold that made it filibuster-proof. All but two of these lawmakers then voted against its final passage, at which point the Republican senators passed it—with only a simple majority being required.
Ahead of Schumer's vote, thousands of people signed a Change.org petition created by a Democratic activist urging him to block the funding bill. His support of the bill has sparked not only backlash from within his party but also calls for him to face a primary challenge.
What People Are Saying
Democratic pollster Jeff Horwitt of Hart Research Associates, which conducted the survey in collaboration with Republican pollster Public Opinion Strategies, told NBC News: "With these numbers, the Democratic Party is not in need of a rebrand. It needs to be rebooted."
MSNBC contributor Rotimi Adeoye wrote on X, formerly Twitter:"I don't want a 'left v moderate' ideological primary for Schumer. I want Pat Ryan, AOC, Daniel Goldman, and anyone else with fresh energy to primary Schumer. We need a new generation of leaders, not someone who has imaginary friends and uses them to understand swing voters."
Pam Keith, a former Democratic congressional candidate, wrote on X: "Let it be known this Friday March 14, 2025 that if @AOC primaries @SenSchumer, she will have my unqualified and total support, starting with a significant donation. And let it also be known that I will NEVER donate another dime to any Senator who votes yes for cloture."
What Happens Next
The Democrats face intense pressure to reorganize their party and policy platform ahead of next year's midterm elections, where they'll have the opportunity to seize control of either or both chambers of Congress.
Donald Trump Just Tied His Own Approval Rating Record
Why It Matters
Trump entered the White House on a wave of enthusiasm among Republicans, with lawmakers insisting the president had a mandate from voters to pursue his agenda after the party won the White House and majorities in both houses of Congress.
What To Know
Fresh polls from Fox News, Reuters/Ipsos, NBC, Quinnipiac and more were released this week, covering Trump's overall approval as well as his approval on individual issues—broken down additionally among Democrats and Republicans—and the response has been overall negative.
Trump had scored major points early on with approval for how he handled his transition back to the White House, achieving a -0.3 approval just before his second inauguration when looking at the aggregate from 538. He also has strong approval in some polls on immigration and his handling of border security.
However, in the latest polls that have come out, he has scored a negative approval rating in most polls—and virtually every major poll: Fox News reported a 49 percent approval, while the Economist/YouGov reported 47 percent approval, Reuters/Ipsos reported 44 percent approval, NBC reported 47 percent approval, and Quinnipiac at 42 percent approval.
Newsweek's average of the 10 recent polls found that Trump has an approval rating of 47 percent, with disapproval at 49 percent.
Gallup found that Trump had a 47 percent approval as he started his second term, which beat his 45 percent approval after his first inauguration, but it still ranks Trump as the only president—twice now—to have a negative approval so early in his administrations going back to 1937, according to CNN.
According to the pollster, even presidents like Ronald Regan and George H.W. Bush who entered with borderline positive approval ratings—both scoring 51 percent shortly after inauguration day—had very small negative ratings at 13 percent and 6 percent each while the bulk of America remained undecided.
When it comes to the issues, Trump has more disapproval than approval on foreign policy, the economy and inflation—issues that some pointed to as the backbone of his popularity going into the 2024 election and key issues that the public voted for him to solve.
The latest Fox News poll, carried out from March 14 to 17, found that 56 percent of respondents disapproved of how Trump has handled the economy so far. His disapproval on inflation is even greater at 58 percent.
AtlasIntel, touted by some as the most accurate polling company in the 2024 election, found Trump to have 47 percent approval compared to 52 percent disapproval, having polled 2,550 respondents with a margin of error plus or minus two percentage points. Earlier polls by AtlasIntel found Trump at 50 percent in January and February.
What People Are Saying
CNN's Chief Data Analyst Harry Enten wrote on X, formerly Twitter: "Nein nein nein... The American folks are saying 'oy vey... ay caramba!'"... Trump becomes only the 2nd president (tying himself) to have net negative approval two months into a term. He is underwater on all major issues (economy, foreign policy, etc.), except immigration.
Pollster Nate Silver, the founder of 538, wrote on X earlier this month: "Just a net ~1 point swing. But Trump's approval ratings turned net negative in our tracker for the first time. The economy/market stuff may have an impact even if other things don't. Or it could be a fluke. Worth watching at least."
Representative Mike Simpson of Idaho, a Republican, wrote on X:”The media has worked tirelessly to paint [POTUS] and his policies in a negative light. Don't be fooled. Approval ratings for Pres. Trump and Republicans are at record highs. America is once again leading with strength
Considering the combination of the Republicans very small majority in both Houses of Congress, that the opposition party almost always has significant gains in the mid terms and Trump’s unpopularity I assumed the Democrats would emerge from next years mid terms with comfortable control of congress in spite of themselves. I seriously need to rethink that. Unfucking believable.
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The only thing I really see the Democrats have is this fear narrative of making people afraid that DOGE is going to cut Social Security, but besides this like I said, I see absolutely no evidence that these Deep-State Democrats have changed their ways at all or are anywhere close to the threshold of this, to avoid the kinds of things that made Kamela lose so badly in 2024.
To me all this stuff like throwing people wearing MAGA hats and shirts out of bars and restaurants and laughing and gloating about it, is the exact kind of thing that's going to keep causing the exact opposite reaction that's going to make Democrats lose. I don't see this sort of thing and strategy being popular in the general public, when people hear about it... and also I think Jasmine Crockett and AOC are just really really weak and profile as very immature, especially when people will have to start hearing them and seeing them each and every day as the "mascots" for this, as they seem to be the next laughable "leaders".
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To me all this stuff like throwing people wearing MAGA hats and shirts out of bars and restaurants and laughing and gloating about it, is the exact kind of thing that's going to keep causing the exact opposite reaction that's going to make Democrats lose. I don't see this sort of thing and strategy being popular in the general public, when people hear about it... and also I think Jasmine Crockett and AOC are just really really weak and profile as very immature, especially when people will have to start hearing them and seeing them each and every day as the "mascots" for this, as they seem to be the next laughable "leaders".
Trump is not only unpopular because of some policies but because of who he is as a person. There are three basic categories of Trump voters. The MAGA’s who are completely loyal to him. People who don’t like him but are willing to hold their noses and vote for him because they agree with most of his policies. People who think he is crazy but voted for him because they believe the Democrats are crazier than him.
The last category is the group the Democrats need to get back.
As for the Democrats they have tried everything and nothing worked. Their seemingly ultimate victory by actually beating him in 2020 backfired. Trump learned from his defeat and has emerged much more formidable. The Democrats are a shell shocked divided party and that is reflected in the polling. They are divided into three main camps.
Go moderate. The case for this strategy is that Biden campaigned as a moderate but blew it by governing left.
Triple down on woke. The case for this strategy is that Trump being elected twice proves their point that America is racist to the core and on the brink of becoming Nazi so what is needed is a revolutionary change in attitude. No time for niceties, All unwilling need to be shamed out of society. People who have doubts need to be constantly reminded they are in the wrong side of history.
Go socialist. The case for this strategy is it is the economy stupid. People are very dissatisfied so why tell then you are another neoliberal? Wokeism is a unpopular deflection.
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“My autism is not a superpower. It also isn’t some kind of god-forsaken, endless fountain of suffering inflicted on my family. It’s just part of who I am as a person”. - Sara Luterman
To me all this stuff like throwing people wearing MAGA hats and shirts out of bars and restaurants and laughing and gloating about it, is the exact kind of thing that's going to keep causing the exact opposite reaction that's going to make Democrats lose. I don't see this sort of thing and strategy being popular in the general public, when people hear about it... and also I think Jasmine Crockett and AOC are just really really weak and profile as very immature, especially when people will have to start hearing them and seeing them each and every day as the "mascots" for this, as they seem to be the next laughable "leaders".
Trump is not only unpopular because of some policies but because of who he is as a person. There are three basic categories of Trump voters. The MAGA’s who are completely loyal to him. People who don’t like him but are willing to hold their noses and vote for him because they agree with most of his policies. People who think he is crazy but voted for him because they believe the Democrats are crazier than him.
The last category is the group the Democrats need to get back.
As for the Democrats they have tried everything and nothing worked. Their seemingly ultimate victory by actually beating him in 2020 backfired. Trump learned from his defeat and has emerged much more formidable. The Democrats are a shell shocked divided party and that is reflected in the polling. They are divided into three main camps.
Go moderate. The case for this strategy is that Biden campaigned as a moderate but blew it by governing left.
Triple down on woke. The case for this strategy is that Trump being elected twice proves their point that America is racist to the core and on the brink of becoming Nazi so what is needed is a revolutionary change in attitude. No time for niceties, All unwilling need to be shamed out of society. People who have doubts need to be constantly reminded they are in the wrong side of history.
Go socialist. The case for this strategy is it is the economy stupid. People are very dissatisfied so why tell then you are another neoliberal? Wokeism is a unpopular deflection.
Interesting... I actually agree with most of what you say. There are a lot of regular people who aren't terribly "extreme" and also really don't like Trump that much, but they are terrified to death of the liberals' plans for America and such and for the West, like with PC culture and all of this.
I used to say for awhile, that a lot of this really hasn't been because Trump necessarily is so good or so utterly brilliant, but because liberals and Democrats in the USA have become so unbelievably bad. One example I have given is I used to hear a lot of liberal pundits like David Halfman constantly roast Conservatives and MAGA voters for "not caring about policy" and stuff of this nature, and then he and the liberal MSM are gloating that "Kamala got the endorsement of the Swifties," and they are gloating about how many votes they think this is going to bag her, like from teenage girls that are fans of teeny-bop that otherwise utterly care nothing about politics.
To me I think the liberals have to be hoping that Musk seriously cuts peoples' benefits in some serious way with DOGE... but besides this, it could be a tough time for the Democrats for awhile. Honestly, I think it's the kind of thing like with the Taylor Swift thing, that the moves the Democrats made to lose things for awhile were already made several years ago, and it's going to take them maybe 10 years to dig out of this hole and start finding suitable new leaders that look decent and aren't tainted and stuff like this.
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