Windows Recall malware reintroduced

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13 Apr 2025, 6:33 am

https://www.theregister.com/2025/04/11/ ... ws_recall/
Seems that for Microsoft there weren't enough reasons already to avoid W11 at all cost...

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13 Apr 2025, 7:55 am

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Redmond said Recall will be an opt-in feature that "will roll out gradually," so you may have to wait for it to be offered to your PC.

It seems like you can avoid the feature by opting out, at least for now.

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13 Apr 2025, 11:31 am

bleh windows whyyy ;-; oh well at least 10 ltsc exist

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14 Apr 2025, 11:42 am

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14 Apr 2025, 12:11 pm

^ PopOS! reporting o7

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14 Apr 2025, 1:49 pm

^ Linuxmen, Unixmen unite! NetBSD + FreeBSD user here

blitzkrieg wrote:

It seems like you can avoid the feature by opting out, at least for now.

It's said to be enabled by default only on "AI-ready" stuff, but IMO it's matter of time to be then enabled by default on everything and possibly then nag all the time to re-enable it. Even if it will remain disabled by default, it's still unacceptable there's some terrific backdoor sitting in your system, waiting for malware (if we can't call system itself already a malware) to be exploited by.

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27 Apr 2025, 11:13 pm

Hetzer wrote:

https://www.theregister.com/2025/04/11/microsoft_windows_recall/
Seems that for Microsoft there weren't enough reasons already to avoid W11 at all cost...

Perhaps it is time to try Linux. Many new Linux users seem to like Ubuntu and Mint.

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28 Apr 2025, 5:53 am

kokopelli wrote:

Ubuntu and Mint.

I would say try mint

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28 Apr 2025, 6:11 am

Garthilium wrote:

kokopelli wrote:

Ubuntu and Mint.

I would say try mint

My top choice for workstations for the last 25 years has been SuSE Linux, but that's probably not the best for people trying Linux out. For my servers, it is OpenBSD although I have toyed with the idea of using FreeBSD.

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28 Apr 2025, 7:03 am

Garthilium wrote:

I would say try mint

^ This. Ubuntu is, erm, somewhat unappealing with it's tabletoid GNOME interface.

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For my servers, it is OpenBSD although I have toyed with the idea of using FreeBSD.

As somebody daily-driving FreeBSD I'd say unless your hardware is unsupported by other BSDs (or ye want bhyve VM so badly), there's IMO no reason to prefer it over Open / NetBSD. It feels a bit messy compared to these two (also is behind on security, which is very important aspect in servers).

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28 Apr 2025, 3:44 pm

Hetzer wrote:

kokopelli wrote:

For my servers, it is OpenBSD although I have toyed with the idea of using FreeBSD.

I understand that FreeBSD is more efficient than OpenBSD.

I use virtual memory filesystems for my /tmp directory on OpenBSD. The odd thing to me is that accessing files in a virtual memory /tmp does not seem to be any more efficient than accessing files on a hard drive /tmp.

In contrast, on my Linux workstations, accessing files on a virtual memory /tmp is extremely fast.

As an experiment a month or so ago, I created a new user on OpenBSD and set it up so that the user's home directory was on /tmp instead of /home. Actually, it set it up on /home but I copied the directory structure for the user to /tmp and changed the settings for it using vipw. I then built some packages in the the virtual memory /tmp and they were no faster than doing the same thing in /home on a conventional mechanical drive.

For what it's worth, I have used FreeBSD on and off since about 1997 and OpenBSD on most of my servers since about 2003.

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30 Apr 2025, 3:12 pm

^ Yeah, but so NetBSD is. FreeBSD is said to be performance demon of BSDs but I think it's negligible (if there's any?) difference from NetBSD on ordinary hardware.

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30 Apr 2025, 3:36 pm

Hetzer wrote:

^ Yeah, but so NetBSD is. FreeBSD is said to be performance demon of BSDs but I think it's negligible (if there's any?) difference from NetBSD on ordinary hardware.

I thought about NetBSD. I have accounts on another networks that use NetBSD but I don't think that I have ever installed it myself.

Speaking of accounts on other networks, IBM used to have a system of computers with free accounts you could use to try out or develop code. I had an account that worked on a number of different IBM systems.I think this was about 15 years ago. I just now looked through some notes from that time period and found my username and password for their systems, but I didn't note the computer addresses.

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30 Apr 2025, 9:55 pm

kokopelli wrote:

Hetzer wrote:

kokopelli wrote:

For my servers, it is OpenBSD although I have toyed with the idea of using FreeBSD.

It's been a while, but I don't know that there's that much difference in speed between the *BSDs at this point, it's mostly a matter of what you're looking for. The literal only reason why I switched to Linux rather than back to FreeBSD in response to this and the support ending for Windows 10 in October is that I'm using Crashplan for my backups and I haven't found a similar alternative for any of the *BSDs.

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30 Apr 2025, 9:56 pm

Hetzer wrote:

^ Yeah, but so NetBSD is. FreeBSD is said to be performance demon of BSDs but I think it's negligible (if there's any?) difference from NetBSD on ordinary hardware.

That's the sense I have. NetBSD development tends to be pretty spread out in terms of wanting to support many different hardware platforms being a significant priority and OpenBSD being more security focused. I think FreeBSD was and is really more of a mainstream option.

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