Tucker and Bret Weinstein Debate Evolution, God’s Existence,
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I know this is fighting against the tide of shortening attention spans (2:30:00) so it won't be for everyone, I'll rattle on about it a bit for anyone more content to read my commentary, but I love conversations like this because they have a way of sticking a fork in the divisions and turning rivalries to more technical stories that both sides can pick through and see the other dealing fairly (180 opposite to 'You don't believe 100% of what I do - you're evil!'). Tucker has plenty of flaws but he'll do a thing where he tries to probe a topic as far as he can without upsetting his base too much and for discussing the dovetail of Darwinian evolution and game theory thinking with religious thinking (the biggest disagreement being whether God invented man or whether Darwinian evolution invented God by way of man's need for cultural sync and an escrow of shared values to coordinate against dying by sword or arrow and having their wives carried off as war brides) they were able to hold space for that kind of discussion over two hours.
I've got about an hour left but I've held out hope for a while that we'd take up the degree of responsibility needed to ask ourselves about the more indirect and cultural outputs of Darwinian evolution. A good analogy of that kind of question being hit from the other side is the G.K. Chesteron's fence analogy where people see a fence, can't see what it's for, tear it down, and find out that they had a mess to clean up because what they were assuming was a state granted by nature was instead a state granted by a man-made contrivance disrupting some malefic natural output. I think the kind of evolutionary psychology Bret applies could be great for tracing behind the fence to figure out what it's cause was to then know whether we've already solved a given problem in more elegant ways or not. We're in an increasingly technically leveraged world and like Bret says multiple times in this interview - we're not in a great place for making it as a species if we couple high technological leverage with lineage selection (ie. genocides / pogroms), and that leads to some sidebars as well about the Israel / Gaza situation as well as US / Iran.
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