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24 May 2025, 9:53 pm

They're unthinking, biased algorithms that steal human art, then churns and collates it into airbrushed drivel. It deludes people into thinking they're artistic; literal stick figures drawn with a pencil would be preferable, as they're at least made by people! Especially with the Veo 3 platform now, I fear for humanity's future. All artists will starve, and all media will be slop dispensed at the oligarchs' pleasure.



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24 May 2025, 9:57 pm


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25 May 2025, 12:37 am

sl1nkyOuroboros wrote:
They're unthinking, biased algorithms that steal human art, then churns and collates it into airbrushed drivel. It deludes people into thinking they're artistic; literal stick figures drawn with a pencil would be preferable, as they're at least made by people! Especially with the Veo 3 platform now, I fear for humanity's future. All artists will starve, and all media will be slop dispensed at the oligarchs' pleasure.

It's essentially demon technology as I saw one of the creators on YT say. There isn't really any use for generative AI that doesn't come with massive downsides that make it one of those things that would have best been never developed. It's a bit like nuclear weapons where once it becomes known that it's possible, it's extremely hard to prevent other countries from doing so.



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27 May 2025, 12:46 am

nah i see it as *the perfect pixel* problem
or to fake to perfect
increasing the demand and obligation of perfect

perfect doesn't exist and the eye and art shouldnt just fixate on perfect (looks)
paving the way to extend that to living standards


why, first
making people unhappy is good for sales
eg, the old bbc doc on -The children seeking cosmetic surgery on their vaginas https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RJpY5QgznBo



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30 May 2025, 5:28 pm

The human race has ruined everything I loved when I was young. I had big dreams of becoming a cartoonist or even an animator. But now people think you're a furry and hate you if you draw animals, they've everything into something creepy or fetishy, and now they're using AI, which can't even count the number of legs Eeyore the donkey has. I know this because of a FB post I saw recently. The more I looked at Eeyore, the worse it got. From the look of the comments I may have been the only one who noticed.



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30 May 2025, 5:54 pm

lostonearth35 wrote:
The human race has ruined everything I loved when I was young. I had big dreams of becoming a cartoonist or even an animator. But now people think you're a furry and hate you if you draw animals, they've everything into something creepy or fetishy, and now they're using AI, which can't even count the number of legs Eeyore the donkey has. I know this because of a FB post I saw recently. The more I looked at Eeyore, the worse it got. From the look of the comments I may have been the only one who noticed.


Degenerate weirdos on the internet hate furries, but they're just as bad as they claim furries are.

Normies don't give a s**t about furry art, positively or negatively.


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30 May 2025, 6:49 pm

I think as AI becomes more sentient/sophisticated it will be more creative, far surpassing any human artist and their own limited experiences. I like AI coming up with random shapes, colours and images.

If human artists want to evolve with AI they should combine art with music and writing like with LUME here in Melbourne
https://www.thelumemelbourne.com/van-gogh

I like the way it's personalised and immersive where the artist is telling their own story (whereas AI is depersonalised). Although LUME has focused on famous artists (Van Gough, Monet, Leonardo etc) but it's easy for any artist to tell their story which art lovers would appreciate > AI bot.



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31 May 2025, 11:34 am

funeralxempire wrote:
lostonearth35 wrote:
The human race has ruined everything I loved when I was young. I had big dreams of becoming a cartoonist or even an animator. But now people think you're a furry and hate you if you draw animals, they've everything into something creepy or fetishy, and now they're using AI, which can't even count the number of legs Eeyore the donkey has. I know this because of a FB post I saw recently. The more I looked at Eeyore, the worse it got. From the look of the comments I may have been the only one who noticed.


Degenerate weirdos on the internet hate furries, but they're just as bad as they claim furries are.

Normies don't give a s**t about furry art, positively or negatively.

Yep, I can't even remember the last time I even saw any. From my perspective, it might as well not even exist as it's not in my awareness most days



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02 Jun 2025, 5:34 pm

And it's not just an affront to painting or sketching, as a writer I'm thoroughly disgusted by how AI is being used to "write" fiction.


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03 Jun 2025, 2:02 am

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And it's not just an affront to painting or sketching, as a writer I'm thoroughly disgusted by how AI is being used to "write" fiction.


tip of the iceberg brother



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03 Jun 2025, 4:10 am

cyberdora wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
And it's not just an affront to painting or sketching, as a writer I'm thoroughly disgusted by how AI is being used to "write" fiction.


tip of the iceberg brother


I'm sure it is!


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03 Jun 2025, 7:04 pm

AI art comes across as a solution to something that was never a problem. It's oversaturated. Being rammed into everything. Who even asked for it?

I love independent animation because you can see the passion and joy that the animators have for the project. You see the team gradually improve each episode. Sometimes it improves so much it gets picked up by a network.

When I read, I like to think about the author. What drove them to tell this story?

I find it interesting that certain AI artists seem to resent being called prompters and yet at the same time consider themselves to be superior to artists. Yes, yes, not all prompters sure. Still, it's a bizarre and fascinating contradiction - how dare you not consider me to be an artist, can't you see I'm above them?

It really ruined online art spaces for me. Suddenly it was no longer about connecting over a shared interest. The websites I held dear were overrun with AI slop, the kind that was pretty but kind of bland from a distance yet absolutely fell apart if you looked at the nonsensical details up close.

That's what gets me. People brag saying oh bet you can't tell that it's AI, as if it's a fun trick. All style but no substance. As if the main goal is to make it indistinguishable from regular art and not to, you know, tell a story itself. Make you feel something. Have meaning.

The joy of art is the process. Prompters seem to be focused purely on the end result and not the journey that comes with it.

I suppose one good thing about it, is that AI slop is so prevalent that the generators are being swamped with AI slop in their datasets leading to a sort of incestuous or mad cow-esque disaster. It's eating its own tail.

I remember when creators were having their streams disrupted. A friend of mine told me about a livestream that was disrupted, a prompter joined a live video of her sketching and talking. It was a casual video where viewers could talk amongst themselves in the chat. The prompter took the almost finished sketch, put it through AI, said 'There - I finished it! You owe me money for saving you time'. Despite the fact that the image was not the direction she was going with the piece and that it was 95% done already.

We laughed about the absurd audacity. To try to sell someone their own artwork. :lol: Wow, you did 5% of the work, what hardship.

I wish I could find that image of the person who is fishing with live bait and someone else comes along then sticks their rod in the bucket filled with fishing bait next to them. I think that sums it up nicely.


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04 Jun 2025, 2:39 am

AI artists will be a thing. Artists who use AI like a paintbrush on photo editing software.



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04 Jun 2025, 3:50 am

I will share an optimistic point of view. I ended up deciding on a stable (hopefully) STEM career path, which is mechanical engineering. I will be honest, engineering isn't my ultimate passion even though I am interested in it. I would rather be in the animation industry but that is too risky with how things are going on right now.

At least while making a livable income I can still pursue my creative outlets. I am definitely not giving up my hobbies. My goal is to improve my art skills and be as good as the artists/animators I admire.

I do plan on producing my first short film. I might not get rich from producing the film but end of day I just want to share my visions and passion with the world. Hopefully I can inspire someone out there like how artists have inspired me. Don't give up your dreams.