Baptisms and Christenings

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What the heck is all that about

I mean I get that it's to wash away your sins but what sins does a small baby have

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Original_sin

A christening is when a child is named.

At Baptism someone becomes a member of the Body of Christ.
Baptism happens with water and spirit. For some people during this ceremony they will be given the gifts of the Holy Spirit which supports a believer in their walk as a Christian and also supports the members of the church/the church itself.
Jesus stated that, "Truly, truly, I tell you, unless one is born of water and the Spirit, he cannot enter the kingdom of God” (John 3:5) (Acts 16 31-34).

We are born with our spirit which also contains the Spirit of God (Psalm 104-30) "Thy sendest forth thy spirit, they are created." From the Father- " But know that the Lord hath set apart him that is godly for himself: the Lord will hear when I call unto him" (Psalm 4). Being Baptised with more of the Holy Spirit at Baptism (which Jesus laid the way for) allows one to grow in the Spirit and become more fully ourselves emulating the attributes of God. This is the presence of God with us here and now and is a third attribute of God.


Not everyone will recieve gifts of the holy spirit during baptism and some may recieve them later in life.
I was baptised at 7-8 and it was a simple service and didn't involve full immersion of water.
Most church's now offer some classes you have to attend in order to be baptised so they make sure you understand what you are doing.
Not everyone is baptised as a child.

Some people are Christians who have not yet been baptised and they can be walked with in their journey to baptism and indeed they are Christians too if they believe.

It's done so that if the baby dies in its infancy, it will go to Heaven instead of Purgatory.

That explains why Catholics do it, but not all churches believe in purgatory in the same manner as Catholics.

It's curious why child baptism is the norm in Christian denominations that don't believe in purgatory in the same manner.

Most Christian denominations practice some sort of water baptism. Some even feel that this ritual guarantees a place in heaven. A more realistic view sees baptism as a Jewish practice associated with making a change of mind (repentance)

However, like the people in ancient Israel, it is difficult to give up a tradition, so it becomes justified.

The word baptizo in Greek was simply transliterated because the actual meaning (immersion) was inconsistent with what had already come into practice in the early church. When a person becomes a Christian he is said to be "baptized" into Christ. The actual meaning is that he is immersed into Christ. Sadly the practice of water baptism is so strongly entrenched, most will not consider what the bible actually says. As a result, many see that in Christianity that which seems foolish.

Christ said it was necessary in order to baptised of water and spirit himself which is clearly in the New Testatment. This was my teaching when I growing up to in multiple faith schools up to 19 years old. He also said that his cousin John the Baptist would come and prepare the way and lead with water and spirit baptism amd this would lead the way.

It connects you as a member of the Body of Christ which Christ is the head of and Christians are the body of this.

There are different forms of water baptisms. You can get full immersion or you can just be lightly touched on your forehead. Now, I receieved the latter as a child. It was a very simple process as a child. I am glad for the journey I had. I needed to be baptised to enter into a catholic school, it was necessary requirement.

I think it is nice for some people to have a faith to enter into that relationship early and grow with it from an early age and to be protected and grow on a spiritual walk. For me I was young but at 16 began searching out a more developed path and was glad I had that basis to do so. Faith young as I have had this can be a very special thing.

There are converts to the faith like Gulshan Esther who are Christian who released a best selling book called the Torn Veil who later was led to baptism by her own spirit as it needed to be done for her growth and to unite her as a member of Christ's body.

This was in my Bible about baptisms. This Bible is hard to come by these days.I am going over it again myself. I will sure go over it well and make sure I have fully got it right. May be others want to read it as well. You can download it and enlarge to to read what it says about baptism.

Hi everyone, I went away and read the article above which is from a KJV Bible and there was a need to reframe some things.

I thought about this again in view of what I read and have come up with this on the subject of baptism. I hope it is clear. I am open to constructive opinion as always.
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Baptism prepares a Christian for dependence on Jesus for their salavation and it prepares them for entrance into the Body of Christ.

The Church Body are members of the church and Jesus is also the head of the Church (Ephesians 1:22-23).As baptised Christians we become part of that body of Christ and have a purpose to fulfil in the church (1 Corinthians 12-28) (Romans 12). As baptised Christians we become part of that body of Christ for remission of sins and this is important about baptism (Acts 2:38, 41). Love, faith and mission are though instrinic as well to fulfiling the role of a Christian life. Baptism on its own is a necessary, but not sufficent on its own for salavation. When we take the Eucharist we are being unified with Christ.

We are born with our spirit which also contains the Spirit of God (Psalm 104-30) "Thy sendest forth thy spirit, they are created." From the Father- " But know that the Lord hath set apart him that is godly for himself: the Lord will hear when I call unto him" (Psalm 4). Being Baptised with more of the Holy Spirit at Baptism (which Jesus laid the way for) allows one to grow in the Spirit and become more fully ourselves emulating the attributes of God. This is the presence of God with us here and now and is a third attribute of God.

Jesus stated that, "Truly, truly, I tell you, unless one is born of water and the Spirit, he cannot enter the kingdom of God” (John 3:5) (Acts 16 31-34).
Matthew 28:18-20 "Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptising them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:"

The Bible closely links Baptism to the giving of the Holy Spirit (Luke 3:16). Baptism goes far beyond the receiving of the Gifts of the Holy Spirit to renewing promises which marks the beginning of a new journey with God. Baptism is a symbolic act whereby the believer portrays the death, burial and resurrection to a new life in the Spirit (Romans 6: 1-4).

The prayers of the head of a household for a family, can help others in that family to get through to the next kingdom (Acts 16: 32-24) and then it called upon them the need for baptism.

Some people may be given the gifts of the Holy Spirit when they are baptised, I myself though wasn't given this till 17 in a separate service when God's time was ready for me. There are 8 Gifts of the Holy Spirit and people are blessed with spiritual gifts to support them in their walk with their faith and these gifts are also given to the believer to support the church itself (1 Corinthians 12:27-28). The gifts of the spirit are prophecy, faith, wisdom, knowledge, healing/miracles, speaking in tongues, understanding the tongues and discerning spirits. Jesus is head of all matters pertaining to the Church and allocates members into their roles to serve in the church minsitry (1 Ephesians 1:22).

With the Holy Spirit's guidance we also can importantly grow in the Fruits of the Spirit which, with these fruits we can use them to model ourselves on as Christians (Galatians 5: 22-23). The Fruits of the spirit are love, joy, peace, patience, faithfulness, gentleness and self control.