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Yesterday, 10:04 am

Honey69 wrote:
https://www.myheraldreview.com/news/lifestyle/less-burnout-more-babies-how-conservatives-are-winning-young-women/article_df83983c-85da-42b4-8704-55bfd84abc97.html

And just where do these young women think they are going to find men who can afford to support them???

Back in the 1950's, here in the U.S.A., the kind of family life that conservatives are so nostalgic for was enabled, to a large degree, by tax policies that "conservatives" are not at all nostalgic for. There were very high (super-extremely high, by today's standards) taxes on the rich, enabling the government to invest in massive infrastructure projects that created lots of good jobs, both directly and indirectly.

Also back then, labor unions were strong -- another enabling factor that most "conservatives" are not at all nostalgic for.

In earlier eras, working-class housewives were supported by child labor, as well as by their husbands. Hmmm, maybe that's what "conservatives" really want? No more education for working-class kids beyond fourth grade or so?


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Yesterday, 10:48 am

Mona Pereth wrote:
Honey69 wrote:
https://www.myheraldreview.com/news/lifestyle/less-burnout-more-babies-how-conservatives-are-winning-young-women/article_df83983c-85da-42b4-8704-55bfd84abc97.html

And just where do these young women think they are going to find men who can afford to support them???

Back in the 1950's, here in the U.S.A., the kind of family life that conservatives are so nostalgic for was enabled, to a large degree, by tax policies that "conservatives" are not at all nostalgic for. There were very high (super-extremely high, by today's standards) taxes on the rich, enabling the government to invest in massive infrastructure projects that created lots of good jobs, both directly and indirectly.

Also back then, labor unions were strong -- another enabling factor that most "conservatives" are not at all nostalgic for.

In earlier eras, working-class housewives were supported by child labor, as well as by their husbands. Hmmm, maybe that's what "conservatives" really want? No more education for working-class kids beyond fourth grade or so?


The 1950s they're nostalgic about is the part where anyone who wasn't a white, straight, Christian male was supposed to know their place. That's why they voted for Trump in 2016 and 2024. A woman being president (in the case of Kamala Harris, a woman of color) defies that mindset. That's why they're so scared of AOC, not her politics, just her skin color and her lack of Y chromosomes.

Nobody wants that life anymore, especially not young women. Nobody wants to hear "no, you can't do this" or "no, you can't do that", which is the defining characteristic of conservatism (and often by extension, Christianity).


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Salerno began watching video clips from Clark on Instagram during the pandemic. She declared to her husband that she was getting rid of their seed oils and food dyes. She ransacked the cabinets and tossed out Cheez-Its and candy. She decided not to get the COVID vaccine.


Getting rid of food dyes, Cheez-Its and candy is a good idea. That seems to be one area where "Conservatives" are overlapping with normal people. I don't know what the alleged problem is with seed oils. I thought that grapeseed oil was supposed to be healthy. I guess we'll be making measles and polio great again. :roll:


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Yesterday, 12:01 pm

The crunchy to trad-wife pipeline is real, but it also isn't that common.


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Yesterday, 12:17 pm

We need to aggressively promote the goth, hipster, hippie, and anarcho-punk subcultures nationwide.

People in the Bible Belt, Utah, and the Heartland should be able to embrace those cultures without ridicule, and even if one doesn't partake, they should think those groups are wonderful.


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Yesterday, 12:19 pm

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Nobody wants that life anymore, especially not young women.

Indeed I wouldn't expect very many young women to want it. I was just pointing out some specific ways that the "conservative" worldview is out of touch with reality, for those who do want to go back to 1950's-style social norms (but who usually do NOT want to go back to 1950's-style taxes on the rich!).


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Yesterday, 12:20 pm

I remember Anita Bryant, back in the day. https://www.pbs.org/outofthepast/past/p5/1977.html


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Yesterday, 12:22 pm

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The only subcultures we should be promoting are goth, hipster, hippie, and anarcho-punk.

How about the LGBTQ+ community?

Also, we need a much better-organized autistic community (and a much better-organized neurodivergent community more generally) than now exists.


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Yesterday, 12:27 pm

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...young women said it was a relief to hear a message that they had privately embraced but felt uncomfortable sharing widely: that it was feminism and career ambition making them unhappy, not the broader stress of puzzle-piecing together the responsibilities of modern life...

... “Women like me are realizing climbing this corporate ladder doesn’t fulfill you...



A lot of men also do not find fulfillment in the corporate world.


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Yesterday, 12:33 pm

Mona Pereth wrote:
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The only subcultures we should be promoting are goth, hipster, hippie, and anarcho-punk.

How about the LGBTQ+ community?

Also, we need a much better-organized autistic community (and a much better-organized neurodivergent community more generally) than now exists.


Them too. Anything right-wingers hate. And those cultures should be promoted nationwide, because not everybody can afford to live in NYC, San Francisco, or Seattle.


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Mona Pereth wrote:
Honey69 wrote:
https://www.myheraldreview.com/news/lifestyle/less-burnout-more-babies-how-conservatives-are-winning-young-women/article_df83983c-85da-42b4-8704-55bfd84abc97.html

And just where do these young women think they are going to find men who can afford to support them???

Back in the 1950's, here in the U.S.A., the kind of family life that conservatives are so nostalgic for was enabled, to a large degree, by tax policies that "conservatives" are not at all nostalgic for. There were very high (super-extremely high, by today's standards) taxes on the rich, enabling the government to invest in massive infrastructure projects that created lots of good jobs, both directly and indirectly.

Also back then, labor unions were strong -- another enabling factor that most "conservatives" are not at all nostalgic for.

In earlier eras, working-class housewives were supported by child labor, as well as by their husbands. Hmmm, maybe that's what "conservatives" really want? No more education for working-class kids beyond fourth grade or so?


These are good points.

The conservatives of the 1950's were only enabled to have their privileged lifestyles in many cases because of more progressive tax policies versus today. We seem to have gone backwards with tax policies in the west, since not long after world war two had passed.

The American dream was once upon a time closer to being real than today's farcical economic conditions.



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Yesterday, 3:56 pm

Are there no "Conservatives" on this board? I know very well that there are autistic "conservatives" in the world. Just not here?


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Yesterday, 5:28 pm

Mona Pereth wrote:
Honey69 wrote:
https://www.myheraldreview.com/news/lifestyle/less-burnout-more-babies-how-conservatives-are-winning-young-women/article_df83983c-85da-42b4-8704-55bfd84abc97.html

And just where do these young women think they are going to find men who can afford to support them???

Back in the 1950's, here in the U.S.A., the kind of family life that conservatives are so nostalgic for was enabled, to a large degree, by tax policies that "conservatives" are not at all nostalgic for. There were very high (super-extremely high, by today's standards) taxes on the rich, enabling the government to invest in massive infrastructure projects that created lots of good jobs, both directly and indirectly.

Also back then, labor unions were strong -- another enabling factor that most "conservatives" are not at all nostalgic for.

In earlier eras, working-class housewives were supported by child labor, as well as by their husbands. Hmmm, maybe that's what "conservatives" really want? No more education for working-class kids beyond fourth grade or so?


No rich person paid anywhere close to 91 percent because of all the tax incentives that they got. Sure they paid more but not 91 percent. I agree that if unions were widespread again it would make things better for raising a family and living the traditional 1950's life. Also a big reason why America was so prosperous back then was because the rest of the world's manufacturing capacity was largely destroyed during the War and America had a monopoly on global manufacturing until the 80's and 90's or so.



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Yesterday, 5:31 pm

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Are there no "Conservatives" on this board? I know very well that there are autistic "conservatives" in the world. Just not here?

I am a conservative Republican, Honey69, As far as I can tell I am the only one on this website.



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Yesterday, 6:16 pm

Is this even real? young women 18-29 who don't come from conservative Christian households overwhelmingly supported Harris in the last election.