Why We Have Aspies

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Fact: Scientists have no clue where autism and Asperger's came from, or why the heck they exist.
Hypothesis (mine): They're looking at the wrong information.
Elaboration on Hypothesis: Medicine and science have no bearing on the purpose of the autism spectrum. The true purpose of Aspies is actually religious.
Supporting Evidence: There is plenty to back me up in the Bible. The description of the ideal Christian is the perfect description of many Aspies. Consider these Bible verses, with corresponding Aspie behaviors:

"Do not conform to the patterns of this world." -Romans 12:2a. In case you haven't noticed, Aspies behave differently than ordinary people.
"Love the Lord with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind and with all your strength." -Matthew 12:30. Many Aspies have one all-consuming passion. I think the original purpose of that was to turn that passion towards God.
"Do not bear false witness against your neighbor." -I forget where that is. Most Aspies almost never lie.

There's plenty more, but being a lazy person who's supposed to be doing her work, I'm not going to post them right now.

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I'm thinking that biology (especially genetics and developmental biology) have far more to do with it than the Bible. Although scientists do not fully understand autism and ASDs down to the last p and q, they are building explanations that are fact based.

I think we could use some of your "proofs" to prove that other religions are validated by the Bible.

This immediately reminds me of the song "My Sweet Lord" by George Harrison. Hari Rama ... Hari Rama ... Or the Sufis that spend long periods trying to know and love God.


Most religions include such ethical teachings - prohibitions against lying, murder, envy, hatred, gluttony, etc. In fact, these often predate the Bible.

In the Middle Ages (aka Dark Ages), the bubonic plague was explained in religious terms. This did very little to help people. Then we started to move away from supernatural explanations for the world, we discovered microbes, then ultimately determined that Yersinia pestis is the cause. Now it can be treated in people when recognized, and we can reduce the disease by controlling the vectors (rodents, fleas).

Religion can give meaning to people's lives. But religious texts are not scientific texts. Trying to fit everything into a religious paradigm can force people to give up their rationality, and it ultimately tarnishes the religion.

Oh, are you sure about all that?

Science has come so far, most people have forgotten that the Bible was the first place many scientific facts were found. Now that those things are common knowledge, nobody pays attention anymore.

Please note that the original post in this thread is my personal answer to the question "Why am I here?" I think that everything has a religious explanation. Science can only tell you what is present, and what happens. Religion answers questions like "Why?" "What purpose does it serve?" and similar.

"Do not bear false witness against your neighbor." appears in several places. Its one of the ten commandments found in Exodus and Deuteronomy.

My aspieness is the reason I never believed a thing they told me in church - why they couldn't prove that a single word of what they were spouting was truth, and without proof why should I believe its any more real than a story about Santa Claus?

Correction, I know there once was a Santa Claus who gave neighborhood children gifts, and thats what led to the modern day version. perhaps I should say any more real than the tooth fairy or Harry potter

Ezekiel 25:17
The path of the righteous man is beset on all sides by the inequities of the selfish and the tyranny of evil men. Blessed is he who in the name of charity and goodwill shepherds the weak through the valley of darkness, for he is truly his brother's keeper and the finder of lost children. And I will strike down upon thee with great vengeance and furious anger those who attempt to poison and destroy My brothers. And you will know My name is the Lord when I lay my vengeance upon thee.
(with a slight change somewhere I beleive)

I wish I could believe a verse like that. But I grew up being honest and kind and was returned with nothing but hatred, vengeness and spite. The worst perpetratous of pain and misery were also the most "religious" people I knew.

(and when i say pain and misery i'm referring to things that would have had my mother locked in jail if anyone had believed me when i spoke about it, and have me taken away from my fathers home without a moments hestitation, again if only anyway had believed me)

its from Pulp Fiction
the guy would say that before he shot someone

Really?? Can you provide examples?

I know what you mean though no one has ever treated me as well as I deserve it seems

Actually, that's not true. All evidence so far indicates that autism is primarily genetic, and we know plenty about the brains of people with autism compared with the general population. You can refer to these threads over here, as that has quite a bit of links to peer reviewed research. You can try and guess who I am at the site if you wish: http://www.scienceforums.net/forum/show ... post353716

Espeically pay attention to the last post.

Also, here's another thread on it: http://www.scienceforums.net/forum/show ... hp?t=28050

The last post there also has some good links to research. Your hypothesis so far does not seem to be supported.



The verses are referring to the ideal behavior of a moral human being, not to aspies. If you really want the truth, "aspies" often display quite the opposite of what is expected of them according to the bible!

Lets see some then.



It doesn't matter, since you made the claim to everyone else, you have to back it up. Whatever the reasons for YOUR existence may not be the same as the reasons for the existence of people with autism in general. Opinion should not be presented as fact.



I don't think religion has anything to do with finding any kind of truth, but that is just an opinion, and off topic for that matter.

And in any case, it addresses questions for which there may be no answer for, and certainly questions that science just cannot address due to their very nature.

The vast majority of the aspies on this forum are secularists. Is not believing in God also an ideal Christian trait?

IMO, the spiritual aspect, if there is one, is not in NTs or aspies. It is in an embracing of the neurodiversities of everyone.

and aspies dont lie?

LIES!