U.S. Mint Confiscates 10 Rare Gold Coins

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29 Aug 2005, 3:16 pm

I think this is appalling, hers by right.

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U.S. Mint Confiscates 10 Rare Gold Coins
PHILADELPHIA - The U.S. Mint seized 10 Double Eagle gold coins from 1933, among the rarest and most valuable coins in the world, that a jeweler says she turned in to determine their authenticity.

Joan S. Langbord plans a federal court lawsuit to try to recover them, her attorney, Barry H. Berke, said Wednesday. Langbord found the coins among the possessions of her late father, longtime jeweler Israel Switt, who had acknowledged selling some of the coins decades ago. She now operates her father's business.

David Lebryk, acting director of the Mint, had announced in a news release that the rare coins, which were never put in circulation, had been taken from the Mint "in an unlawful manner" in the mid-1930s and now were "recovered."

The coins, which are so rare that their value is almost beyond calculation, are public property, he said.

Berke said Mint officials couldn't prove the coins had been stolen, or were subject to forfeiture. But Mint officials said Thursday the double eagles could not have legally been taken from the Mint.

In 2002, Sotheby's and numismatic firm Stack's auctioned off a 1933 Double Eagle coin for $7.59 million, the highest price ever paid for a coin. That Double Eagle, believed to have been part of a collection belonging to King Farouk of Egypt, surfaced when a coin dealer tried selling it to undercover Secret Service agents.

After a legal battle, the dealer was permitted to sell the coin at auction on the condition he split the proceeds with the Mint. One of the terms of the settlement was that it would set no precedent for any future double eagle that appeared.

In its statement, the Mint said officials were still deciding what they would do with the seized coins, which are being held at Fort Knox. They said they had no plans to auction them but would consider saving "these historical artifacts" for public exhibits. Other double eagle coins seized in the past were melted down.

Double Eagles were first minted in 1850 with a face value of $20. The 445,500 coins minted in 1933 were never put into circulation because the nation went off the gold standard. All the coins were ordered melted down, but a handful are believed to have survived, including two handed over to the Smithsonian Institution.

Langbord declined to discuss how the coins might have wound up with her father, who operated an antiques and jewelry shop for 70 years and died in 1990 at 95.

The Mint contends Switt obtained a cache of the gold coins from his connections at the Mint just before they were to be reduced to bullion in 1937.

Switt admitted in 1944 that he had sold nine Double Eagle coins, but he was not charged in connection with those transactions, according to the Mint.

The family attorney said the coins were found recently, and Langbord and her son, Roy, notified the Mint of the discovery in September. Mint officials asked to authenticate the coins, then confiscated them after doing so, Berke said.

He contended Langbord and her son never relinquished their right to the coins.

But Mint officials said Thursday that Berke was told from the beginning that the coins would not be returned because they were the government's property.



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29 Aug 2005, 3:22 pm

I agree with you, but the truth is that all money is property of the government. We just borrow it to represent the value that we have.

Just like my Social Security card is actually property of the United States, or my driver's license is property of the State of Illinois.


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25 Sep 2005, 6:02 pm

I agree with you both on this subject



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25 Sep 2005, 9:17 pm

PaulB wrote:
I agree with you, but the truth is that all money is property of the government. We just borrow it to represent the value that we have.

Just like my Social Security card is actually property of the United States, or my driver's license is property of the State of Illinois.



The gove,emt has no money it does not take, the govement has NO money.

Its mot a magic coupon it has to represent actual value or its just scrap paper. LIke germany between the wars..



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26 Sep 2005, 9:34 am

Gold money is forbidden thanks to FDR. We used to have REAL gold currency, and now we have fiat paper fake currency which causes rampant inflation.



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01 Oct 2005, 1:03 pm

The Government is the the money.

The Government makes the money.

The Government becomes the money.

The Government loans the money.

The Government takes the money.

The Government keeps the money.

The Government lets us play with its money.

The Government lets us buy with its money.

The Government lets us pay with its money.

The Government lets us borrow with its money.

The Government lets us exchange its money.

The Government lets us collect money.

The Government lets us make money.

The Government lets money be money.



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01 Oct 2005, 1:05 pm

The Goverment lets people turn into money.



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01 Oct 2005, 2:13 pm

joku_muko: Isn't that so true.

The people become the money, they dream of money, they see only money, they only want money, so the people are the money.