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18 Jan 2008, 11:16 pm

I thought I heard it all until I saw this on Yahoo News 8O

Child thrown to death on Hawaii freeway

HONOLULU - The man in hospital scrubs threw the toddler like a doll from a pedestrian overpass to the freeway humming with traffic. The 2 1/2-year-old boy fell 30 feet to the asphalt and was pronounced dead at the scene.

The horrifying incident Thursday on the highway cutting through the heart of the city shocked Honolulu residents, causing panicked parents to phone day care centers to check on their children.

Police arrested a 23-year-old man they say occasionally baby-sat the child after witnesses saw him throwing something, followed him and called authorities.

Kraig Hengst told The Honolulu Advertiser he was working in an apartment garage across the street from the overpass when he saw a man "toss the baby" at about 11:40 a.m.

"I saw the baby high in the air. I thought it was a doll at first," Hengst said. The man held the child in one arm and "tossed it into the air," he said.

One or two vehicles may have struck the boy, but it was unclear exactly what killed him, the newspaper reported.

A white sheet covered the body on the westbound lanes of the H-1 freeway, a major route through downtown that police temporarily closed. The scene was just blocks from the Capitol and the governor's mansion.

The man, who was wearing green hospital scrubs, was taken to the police station and then to a hospital, said police spokeswoman Michelle Yu. She didn't know whether he had a history of mental illness or a criminal record.

"That will be part of the investigation," Yu said.

The suspect screamed "Thank you for everything" to television crews as he was escorted to a cell block. While in a police car, he rocked back and forth in the back seat.

The Queen's Medical Center, the nearest facility with a mental health wing, declined to say whether the man was or had been a patient. But spokeswoman Rebecca Pollard said that no patients were missing Thursday and that none had been discharged in an unstable condition.

Johnnie Bruen told KITV that the man calmly walked away from the overpass after dropping the child. Bruen later chased the man up a hill among houses and low-rise apartment buildings near the freeway.

"He didn't say anything, he didn't scream; he looked like a normal person standing there smoking a cigarette, except that he had on a smock," Bruen said. "That's just a horrible sight that I seen down there, for any man to do that to a child."

Hedy Chun, director of a nearby preschool, Kamaaina Kids Honolulu, said 10 to 15 parents called to check on their children. All students were safe, she said, but her staff was shocked.

Gov. Linda Lingle, told of the incident shortly after it happened, called it a "real tragedy."

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080118/ap_ ... 2ExrFI2ocA


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19 Jan 2008, 10:56 am

He's obviously mentally ill and mentally ill people do strange things because (sometimes) their value system is screwed. In the hospital I was next to a guy who killed his mother, father and baby sister because he was given baked beans instead of a trip to McDonalds for his evening meal.

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19 Jan 2008, 11:03 am

edal wrote:
He's obviously mentally ill and mentally ill people do strange things because (sometimes) their value system is screwed. In the hospital I was next to a guy who killed his mother, father and baby sister because he was given baked beans instead of a trip to McDonalds for his evening meal.

Ed Almos


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19 Jan 2008, 11:59 am

Murder is the ultimate statement of control of one's world.


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19 Jan 2008, 1:14 pm

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Murder is the ultimate statement of control of one's world.


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This is exactly how psychopaths order their world, and they do so because they have the ability to do it. Very simple and very frightening. Read Dr. Robert Hare's thoughts on this subject(various websites).


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19 Jan 2008, 1:30 pm

Honestly its not the psychopaths that cause me to lose faith in humanity, its the fact that "normal" people make jokes about crap like this happening.



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19 Jan 2008, 2:33 pm

Most "normals" find the concept of death and mayhem comforting and enjoyable. Thus, the popularity of the National Football League and NASCAR, to name a few.... Bread and Circuses didn't end with the fall of Rome, they just changed the names and cut a little bit of the blood. It wouldn't shock me, the way society seems to be desensitizing itself to paid and death, if in a few years they start allowing actual combat in some of the NFL games... Or just start televising atrocities from around the world... death squads roaming Africa, gang violence in American inner cities, stoning of unbelievers and "fallen women" in strict muslim areas...


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19 Jan 2008, 3:20 pm

Personally I'm more guilty of being obsessed with death then most maybe not in the same way as others but still to say anything else would be an outright lie. I think its just human nature, the need to fight to survive which isn't taking place anymore and our brains are still trying to live in the jungles.



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19 Jan 2008, 3:23 pm

sartresue wrote:
SeaBright wrote:
Murder is the ultimate statement of control of one's world.


Control Freaks Topic

This is exactly how psychopaths order their world, and they do so because they have the ability to do it. Very simple and very frightening. Read Dr. Robert Hare's thoughts on this subject(various websites).

cool, thanks for the lead satresue. :-)

It seems to me that if he would have thrown himself over after wards it would have proved an ounce of goodness.


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19 Jan 2008, 4:06 pm

AspieDave wrote:
Or just start televising atrocities from around the world...


Have you forgotten about this already?

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19 Jan 2008, 4:15 pm

There are now ideas in my head about what happened to the child's body. Amasing... 'sigh' -.- That baby sure didn't diserve that, and I can only imagine how the drivers of the cars felt. The parents/close relatives to the baby probably won't trust another person very easily again either. Why should they after the worst possible outcome.



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19 Jan 2008, 10:20 pm

Every murder is a self-portrait...



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20 Jan 2008, 2:33 pm

Oy vey.

That poor baby :(


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20 Jan 2008, 5:37 pm

Moving to the News forum.


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20 Jan 2008, 6:40 pm

Yup. Horrible things happen, I didn't even raise an eyebrow when I saw this.



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20 Jan 2008, 7:38 pm

I feel for the drivers of the cars that were involved... how do you live with yourself after something like that?